OpenAI and Reddit Partnership

I've watched a notable decline in Reddit content quality the past few years. Obvious engagement farming posts that I didn't used to see. A low quality jpeg of a character from the TV show the reddit is about, titled "who else agrees this character is the worst!" People just asking open-ended questions because it'll get everyone commenting, even if the question isn't very interesting.

I have to assume because of the growing phenomenon of Reddit being the only valuable results returned from Google, it's becoming more valuable for companies to astroturf Reddit content that will appear in Google. So there must be either bot-run accounts, or some kind of business of karma farming to later sell off accounts with karma that won't get flagged for spam when they start endlessly posting about how great [PRODUCT] is.

i'm not a flaming activist or anything (yet), and i appreciate the benefit of their work, but they really told us we can't pirate anything they make, and then proceeded to pirate everything we made.

i'm not a luddite, or a "hippie". i'm going to keep paying for my GPT-N+1. I just want it in writing that if they can pirate everything, so can you and I. It's only fair.

Is Reddit going to revive the large number of high-value comments that people deleted in protest over Reddit locking down API, apps, etc.?

(Related question: Given how frequently the answer that Google sends me to is a Reddit comment that's been deleted... Has anyone gotten data on whether high-value contributors were disproportionately pissed off by Reddit, enough to throw away their legacy of contributions? The people who care the most, care the most? That's something we might guess if we thought through it ahead of time, was but I still surprised to see what looked like that in action.)

> OpenAI will bring enhanced Reddit content to ChatGPT and new products, helping users discover and engage with Reddit communities. To do so, OpenAI will access Reddit’s Data API, which provides real-time, structured, and unique content from Reddit. This will enable OpenAI’s AI tools to better understand and showcase Reddit content, especially on recent topics

note that this terminology doesnt directly say if openai is training on reddit data. there's a difference between relying on reddit as a search engine (retrieved on demand) or as a pretrain corpus. this language leaves some wiggle room

as fun as it would be for redditors to now go and burn down any/all content that would feed this bot, you have to believe that this announcement is more of an after-the-fact notification vs a we-are-about-to-do-this piece of information.

either way. there has never been a better time to abandon reddit so ... see you all on Lemmy and here.

It may go down as well as recent StackOverflow partnership: https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intell...

I will never understand why users are always up in arms about announcements like these. If you post content on public forums like Reddit, Stack Overflow, Quora, Tumblr, HN and wherever else then they will be available for public viewing and archiving, including by the likes of OpenAI. That has been true about the internet since day 1. If you don't agree with it, don't put the content out there.

The original GPT-2 was trained significantly on scraped Reddit conversation data (hence the SolidGoldMagikarp bug), so it's very funny that things are coming full circle.

It looks like this is more than a license to blindly feed data into the model training phase, like the previously announced StackOverflow partnership.

Looks like ChatGPT will be able to dynamically query the Reddit Data APIs and retrieve new info, sort of a la Grok/Twitter. Interesting, and seems quite useful.

All those communities that were generated in good will eventually got swallowed up and monetized.

Reddit is essentially a free marketing platform. Companies, agencies, brands, individuals sell their products via this platform but Reddit does not see any money from it. Don't get me wrong, we love the content that these professionals produce. it is fun, engaging, creative. Professional redditors are just like us with interests, character, memes. They are just paid to do it. It has been a problem for reddit (not us) for many years about how to capture this marketing. Traditionally companies would pay via advertising.

In the long term I can see reddit using AI to replace user generated content to capture paying customers.

I'm not exactly sure how they seek to convert the current marketing to some kind of paid solution. I can guess they may do some kind of prioritisation of content if the submitter is a paying customer. AI can satisfy most users so brands may pay to play.

When Reddit’s leadership started publicly referring to its users as data to leverage, surely everyone saw this coming?

Recently, I saw that Google has partnered with Reddit to bring more amazing content that never happened before[1]. However, on SEO, Reddit ranks #1 compared to other websites for any startup. Now, with this partnership, it's so confusing how Openai and Google will use the user's data to farm posts for engagement[2].

[1] https://blog.google/inside-google/company-announcements/expa... [2] https://openai.com/index/openai-and-reddit-partnership/

> Keeping the internet open is crucial, and part of being open means Reddit content needs to be accessible

Hearing this line from OpenAI sounds like the death knell for the Open Web.

First off - is Reddit really "the open web" or just a part of it? It's absolutely privately owned, there should be no confusion mentioning "Reddit" and "open" in the same breath.

Secondly - if keeping the internet open is crucial, why does it neccessitate incorporating open content into a commercial product? Is it not fair to worry that this is an attempt to commoditize the free transfer of information?

Truly, what a braindead piece of marketing copy to write. Sam ought to should be ashamed of the monster he's created.

How does this compare to Google's existing partnership from February with Reddit? https://blog.google/inside-google/company-announcements/expa...

“Lastly, OpenAI will become a Reddit advertising partner”

I wonder what this means? Will OpenAI be investing research and engineering into creating models that are optimised to create ads that lead to high engagement? Is this a going to be a new revenu stream model for OpenAI?

Google was the first to partner with Reddit for AI , now it’s time for Google to go behind stack overflow which OpenAI already did and probably twitter.

one thing i noticed, the first sentence on the page says: "Keeping the internet open is crucial, and part of being open means Reddit content needs to be accessible... "

but if you use the text-to-speech reader it reads "Keeping the internet open is crucial, and part of being open means public Reddit content... " (emphasis mine)

I'm a luddite when it comes to generative AI models but to me it seems like the primary use case for training OpenAI on Reddit posts would be if you wanted to be able to create a more realistic genAI bot to post on Reddit for some reason.

Surely if you are making a genAI bot for medical/legal applications the likelihood of hallucinations/misinformation is way higher if Reddit posts are included than if it were solely trained on official medical/legal documents

How do you feel about your HN posts used as training data?

Reddit stock is up almost 10% in after hours trading.

Time to start deleting my posts!

didn’t google make a deal as well? any idea how big this deal is in terms of $$$?

Err. Reddit is a dumpster fire of social discourse