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I think the difference in demo style between OpenAI’s GPT-4o (yesterday) and this is interesting. Google’s videos feel more like a mixture of brand marketing and pandering to shareholders. OpenAI’s videos yesterday felt much more like a casual tech demo among colleagues. Hard to explain the exact differences that make me feel that way.

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One company is led by engineers, the other is led by MBAs

Do people consider Altman an engineer?

If you reread it was plural. Indicating it was not ceo vs ceo but rather employees vs employees.

Greg Brockman et al.

the astra video is exactly in the style of existing google ads. disembodied voice, POV camera. so we're desensitized to them. in contrast the openai videos all had engineers front and center, excited to show off their work.

not hard to explain... im sure theres more elements but this has to be the first principal component

It was also, on the theme that you mentioned, incredibly, unnecessarily horny.

And Sama leaned into that, tweeting "her" yesterday -> https://twitter.com/sama/status/1790075827666796666

I'm not trying to cancel anyone, it wasn't malicious, and it wasn't offensive. But it's definitely something, and not everyone's chill about it.

But it's not a problem because Google doesn't compete with OpenAI (IMO). Google competes with Microsoft which will add all the necessary polish to de-hornify the OpenAI stuff for the corporate customers.

Meanwhile the core OpenAI tech ultimately demos better and offers it's value proposition to a legion of startups better than Google.

In summary, if you're an engineer of building on top of a model, OpenAI seems better.

And if you're a CTO/CIO trying to pick a horse to sign an enterprise contract with, Google seems better.

"incredibly"??? You have very different standards for horniness than I do.

Maybe because OpenAI's demos were actually done live

This other video seems to have been done live: https://twitter.com/GoogleDeepMind/status/179046325982242023...

I’d prefer these kinds of demos instead of Googles sterile marketing videos showcasing the product

This is good, why haven't they shown something like this? I/O was a snooze fest

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