The iPad Pro Manifesto (2024 Edition)
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Other than hacking off the top half of a MacBook...
That's a pretty significant downside. :(
[1]: https://www.17lands.com/ - 17Lands is a website that tracks win-loss (and other) data in MtG: Arena games by installing a small program that reads logs from the game itself. It's the perfect example of the iPad's failings: it's too esoteric for Apple to provide directly and covers the kind of program extensibility needed to make hardware pro-usable.
It's a nice reader and portable second display, though.
I mean this is a site for programmers. Surely everyone here has the experience of bumping their head on annoying IT-approved vendor-supported software limitations, right? It could be a pro device where your company locks down everything inside an Apple provided framework. They could even (since they are going to need to put together the plumbing for this anyway to comply with EU) have an internal IT department provided company store.
People here want iPad libre. I want that too. I don’t think that’s what Apple means by pro, though.
And yet, 17Lands works on a Mac!
> Of course, Apple themselves have more control than app developers (and you), but don't worry, Apple will use their position to make sure that only good developers take control of your iPad!
That's a prosecutable abuse of power by Apple.
That is, complete control over what the users can do.
Hacking around these sort of barriers is more of a gamer thing I think.
iPhone 5 introduced swipe-from-the-side gesture -> to make people accustomed to that gesture for future larger screen iPhones.
AR in iPhone -> allowed developers to get used to developing AR apps for Apple Vision Pro.
Apple's Catalyst and ARM chips being on both iPads and Macs - do you follow? We're going to see an iPad-thin computer that is both an iPad and a Mac that will seamlessly switch between these two modes, since the apps will be "adaptable/responsive". Without needing to reload a different OS for each. This is the kind of product that only Apple's vertical integration of hardware and software makes possible. Also, since they've *already* started this plan way long ago. In a way, it's already here, they just need to finish the puzzle.
They need to make iPad Pro a multi-OS device. Or make the iPad version of iOS a true professional operating system. Right now, they're not showing progress on either front.
Like Windows 10's tablet mode, you mean?
On the other, Windows 10 has a tablet mode? I knew they tried that with 8, but I thought it was bad enough that even MS would give up.
It basically reverts to the Windows 8 UI.
BTW, The thin and light part is very important, actually. If you're going to make a Mac that is also an iPad, it first needs to be an iPad - and that is thin and light to be used by picking up with hands.
Windows 8 tried to live that ethos but failed in almost every way. It tried to mix the different modes of use (iPad & Mac) into one. That's not what I expect Apple will do. It's going to be more like - once you attach a keyboard, you'll be automatically in Mac mode, once you remove it, you will return to iPadOS mode, immediately, seamlessly - since they will be the same OS (that shows up completely differently depending on the mode)
This is a wishlist for a device that lets you do literally everything in every way possible that a Mac lets you do, but is simultaneously perfectly adapted to doing all of those things in a completely touch-only format with no downsides, regressions, or compromises.
Huh? Is this true? Wonder how reviewers are recommending iPad for video editing workflows if it can't even render in the background.
The iPad Pro is exactly the device that Apple wants it to be. It's not for you. Don't buy it. If you need an iPad, get the iPad 10 for $300 and then guiltlessly buy avocado toast every weekend for the rest of the year. You'll be a lot happier.
On Reddit as you need your finger to scroll and a lot of videos are in the way it's almost impossible to scroll without touching one-> the music will stop.
I’m not saying sound management doesn’t suck on iOS. It does. But the scenario you describe is forbidden by Safari and Chrome on mobile and desktop. Unless I’m misunderstanding something.
But other than that, it has been an extreme disappointment. I don't know what Apple's definition of "Pro" is. I used to think it was video production and photography. But something as basic as an HDR photo merge cannot be done on iPad Pro.
I use it for two features which the Mini 2 does not have built in: waypoint navigation and object tracking. Both work well.
Techies nitpick every aspect of its OS because it wasn't made for them.
E: I'm not saying that people are wrong to like it as an app slate. Maybe that's what most people want. I just want to distinguish it from a personal computer, which is a tool that lets users write and run applications of their choosing.
Bit by bit more tasks can be done on it as well as some new ones that aren't suited to traditional PCs. Just like we see today with phones, laptops, desktops, mainframes and the like - there are already people who can do all of their computing on just one device.
As for the complaints, everything is fair game, but most of the complaints about the iPad seem to be rooted in what it can't do in comparison to a laptop computer, or more specifically macOS. This is often given with the flimsy validation that the product is labelled "pro".
However it seems clear that it has "pro" in the title because it's far more capable than other iPads, not because it is peers to the Mac Pro computer. I also think it's borderline absurd to base an argument on marketing nomenclature. (Especially as there is an iPhone Pro, Airpods Pro etc.)
It seems clear (to me), that in order to make a thin, light, and performant device, that some compromises would need to be made - otherwise why aren't the laptops similarly thin and light. A cursory review of the specs between an iPad Pro and a MacBook Pro tell the story in better detail.
Perhaps one day iPads will have limitless background processing functionality, but there should be no expectation that the iPad of the day would match the functionality of the laptop or desktop of the day.
That doesn't seem to make sense though, as the iPad Pro hardware is completely able to do what the err... macOS-wanters er... want. It's the software side (OS mostly) completely blocking forward progress.
The laptops have significantly larger batteries and active cooling, while not being as light, thin or running a display against the main heat producing components, while the iPad is thinner than an iPod nano.
But by all means promote a trivially debunked conspiracy theory.
Where's this debunking you're speaking of, or are you mistakenly thinking your mention of batteries and cooling is somehow that?
Go on, where's your evidence.
The keyboard, trackpad, and fans, mostly.
read that again, but slowly.
I'm not sure who the iPad Pro is supposed to be for, but it ain't "the masses".
I really would love to have the best screen on the planet, heck yes, but with the you-probably-want-this upsells (nano screen along with it's mandatory storage upgrades) this is a $2500 setup. Adding insult to injury is iPadOS existing at such an infantile proto-computing level, as detailed here & elsewhere (ex, yesterday's blog, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40349347).
If the answer is that this VM program is the only one that never gets killed under memory pressure, bear in mind most iPads still have only 8G RAM so the OS will have to get even less than that, not leaving very much for any workflows on either the host or guest from that point on. Even that is still less capable than macOS on the same 8G RAM because at least macOS can use swap.
It's egregious that you can still buy laptops with 8G RAM today, but at least all of that is available to the OS all the time, it doesn't just abort under memory pressure, and it can swap.
Virtualization may make more sense with a different host or guest platform, but in this particular combination, memory will always be a problem. The lack of swap compounds that further. (I'm not sure about memory compression in iOS but you can't exactly rely on that for already-compressed data)
Even if the host and guest share memory to avoid the hard cutoff, there still needs to be a way for the iPad to free up memory on demand, given that it cannot use swap.
It's not really clear who the iPad Pro is for, aside from people who want to watch videos on the best screen.
How well the iPad / Apple Pencil work for drawing very much adds color to posts here berating the iPads for being a content consumption device.
Guilty. I bought the first M1 12.9" iPad Pro not because of the M1, but because of the miniLED. Now I have a superb screen anywhere I want it, without worrying about damage like I would with a laptop.
Need a powerful device to take with you everywhere, mainly used for communication and consuming media, buy an iPhone. Want a device for doing actual work, buy a Mac. iPad Pro now has Apple's most powerful processor, but nowhere close to being able to do the job of a less powerful Mac due to software limitations.