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Comment by Jimmc414 | Hacker News Reader

Big questions are (1) when is this going to be rolled out to paid users? (2) what is the remaining benefit of being a paid user if this is rolled out to free users? (3) Biggest concern is will this degrade the paid experience since GPT-4 interactions are already rate limited. Does OpenAI have the hardware to handle this?

Edit: according to @gdb this is coming in "weeks"

https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1790074041614717210

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>what is the remaining benefit of being a paid user if this is rolled out to free users?

It says so right in the post

>We are making GPT-4o available in the free tier, and to Plus users with up to 5x higher message limits

The limits are much lower for free users.

thanks, I was confused because the top of the page says to try now when you cannot in fact try it at all

Yeah, it's weird. Confused me too.

I'm a ChatGPT Plus Subscriber and I just refreshed the page and it offered me the new model. I'm guessing they're rolling it out gradually but hopefull it won't take too long.

Edit: It's also now available to me in the Android App

i can try it now, but now the voice features i dont think

You can use GPT-4o now but the interactive voice mode of using it (as demoed today) releases in a few weeks.

This might mean GPT-5 is coming soon and it will only be available to paid users.

Or they just made a bunch of money on their licensing deal with Apple. So they don't need to charge for ChatGPT anymore.

If it's going to be available via Siri this could make sense.

It does make me wonder how such a relationship could impact progress. Would OpenAI feel limited from advancing in directions that don't align with the partnership? For example if they suddenly release a model better than what's in Siri, making Siri look bad.

I'm actually thinking that the GPT store with more users might be better for them

From my casual conversations, not that many people are paying for GPT4 or know why they should. Every conversation even in enthusiast forums like this one has to be interjected with "wait, are you using GPT4? because GPT3.5 the free one is pretty nerfed"

just nuking that friction from orbit and expanding the GPT store volume could be a positive for them

I'm not convinced I need to keep paying for plus. The threshold of requests for free 4o is pretty high.

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