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I am just glad to see I am not the only one making up imaginary scenario where I bring people from the past to have them marvel at our world.

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My favorite "one of these" is the idea of taking a Raspberry Pi, or ATtiny, or modern Macbook Pro back to the ENIAC guys. Can you imagine how they'd have reacted to see these tiny little devices which pack orders of magnitude more computational power than their warehouse-sized computer? The mind boggles.

I tend to always play the cynic in these games. And I think one little way to easily do that is to reverse the roles with an example you are giving. So for your example, imagine somebody from the future came and showed you a pinhead sized device with countless exabytes of computational power projected onto a holographic screen. While I'm sure you'd be impressed and have plenty of questions, I don't think there would be any particular shock. Evolutionary progress - even at absurd scales, is still just evolutionary progress, and easily 'graspable'.

Agreed, I think if you showed me as a kid that a tiny microSD could store every game I ever played and still have room for every TV show I ever watched without getting remotely full, and was affordable, it'd be impressive. But it wouldn't blow my mind as something inconceivable, I had already known floppy disks both shrunk in size and increased in capacity.

Plus, I'd imagine "the ENIAC guys" would quickly realize all the things that were computationally infeasible in their time had more or less been done along the way to modern computers.

That's because you have witnessed the decades of exponential growth. It's not hard to extrapolate that growth further, albeit it still blows my own mind when I see a disk that looks like a RAM, is way faster than my RAM was 15 years ago (2 GB/s? You must've forgotten to take your crazy pills), and has 2000 times more storage.

But show it to a guy working with electromechanical or vacuum tube computers and I'm sure it would be a very otherworldly experience for them.

I'm actually not sure what would blow their mind more - a very big and unimaginably fast computer, or a by today's standards very slow computer that fits on few millimeters. Things like payment cards or SIMs are just incredible too - enough compute power to land on the Moon hidden in a piece of plastic.

Read SF of the era. You probably have some very far futures where the computers running everything are essentially invisible. But SF authors for the most part are not imaging miniaturized supercomputers woven into the fabric of everyday life.

I would agree if we were talking about, say, a team in 1970, but it's worth pointing out that we're talking about a team working during the very infancy of computer engineering (the late 40s/early 50s). Just off the top of my head, you had solid-state hardware, stored-program machines, and the Von Neumann architecture all just popping on to the scene. This is stuff that would definitely have been on their radar, but I think they'd be fascinated to realize how directly and fundamentally those inventions would affect computing.

Perhaps more importantly, I think they would be blown away by how directly and fundamentally computing would change the world. Doug Englebart and his team are the ones who really developed the idea of using computers for something other than performing calculations for scientists. They started that research in the early 60s, and didn't drop the Mother Of All Demos until 1968. So if I were one of the "ENIAC guys", and someone asked me how my work would affect the world, I'd probably just shrug and suggest that the computers I was building would help perform computations that would let other scientists make discoveries more quickly.

1950s was the era of Asimov, Arthur C. Clarke, Heinlein, etc. Give people a spark and we naturally will create a flame, even if only in our minds. Take something current - many people are already envisioning futures where LLMs will not only be running on basically every device, but also integrated into each and every aspect of life. Some even envision them eventually replacing humans in politics, working as caretakers, and more.

It's easy to imagine it - even with absolutely no basis for it whatsoever. Go back millennia to the first men making ships able to embark deep into the oceans, and these people would also have already been envisioning the Titanic. The moment the Wright Bros proved flight viable, many were seeing the Hindenberg. It's just human nature.

I don't think they'd necessarily have some sort of existential crisis, or even have their minds blown - but I'm positive they'd be impressed.

Hedonic adaptation. See even the other threads about ChatGPT where people are complaining that it's still not good enough, even though nothing like it were possible a mere few years ago. People will adapt to anything over time, and so like the other commenter, I too would not be shocked to not see much shock on their faces if you showed them such a miniature computer.

I'm 40 now, but I'm still blown away. It's amazing that we can just keep installing web-servers into random things like wall switches, power outlets and control them wirelessly and just treat is a business as usual.

I just got a WiFi enabled ESP8266 with a thumb sized OLED display for like $10.

I can't really keep track of how many computers are in my home :)

I do this with music, and measure how good a song is by what fraction f of the words I would need to change for me to send it n years back in time to be understood by an older audience.

I have a small community (n=1 or 4?) where I write this up:

https://lemmy.ml/c/howtimeless

Which one would require the most explaining, according to you?

Not OP but it's likely some modern rap. A lot of the language used deviates significantly from what we would consider to be standard English and derives from cants that are not very old (80s/90s maybe).

It's the end of the world - R.E.M.; One Week - Barenaked Ladies. That's just off the top(ical) of my head.

https://lemmy.ml/comment/5509793

Otha Fish by Pharcyde has tons of references ranging from 50s-90s. Scroll down to the main comment to see them explained.

I do when I'm driving to the airport in the DC area. I imagine that I'm actually picking up Abe Lincoln from the 1860's and what I'll show him on the drive back.

My made-up imaginary scenarios are usually about scientists of the past that had to do everything by hand, and today's Desmos Graphing Calculator[1].

[1]: https://www.desmos.com/calculator

It's fascinating to imagine how people from the past might react to the technological advancements and societal changes of the present day! I love to imagine my great grandpa exploring the world now.

me> in my pocket contains a device that gives me access to all of the world's information almost instantly

person from the past> wow! what do you do with it?

me> look at pictures of cats and argue with people i don't even know

/i think that's from an xkcd

Benjamin Franklin: "So you're telling me there are hot single women in my area that are looking to date?"

Known for his womanizing, this is kinda funny

Xkcd having a joke for every occasion might be a true modern marvel.

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