$7.5B investment in EV charging has only produced 7 stations in two years
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This seems to be just partisan point scoring.
Besides half the Republican Party is still advocating for coal and oil extraction, it’s a bit hypocritical to be complaining that EVs aren’t happening fast enough.
The reaction you expressed is exactly the wrong one for anyone who wants to see government build infrastructure, or do more in general. It would be a disaster for republicans if democrat-run governments could actually deliver on their promises and deliver cost-effective, efficient public services in transit, education, healthcare, etc. The defensive reflex that seeks to insulate government failures from accountability only helps republicans.
Specially when you're investing BILLIONS on a project. Moreso id the changers are already standardized.
2012 - 7
2013 - 63
2014 - 380
(based on Wikipedia with cited sources there)
So second year is +56, third +317.
So a comparable rate should be possible.
So only 9 years.
Obviously they didn’t start building charging stations straight away but this doesn’t really feel like we are all having an honest discussion :/
That said they’ve had a long time to plan those chargers.
As well as obtaining thousands of bits of real estate, permitting, etc.
As with those highways themselves, the money goes to states, who run the thing.
That is just for small personal cars, not even SUV or trucks. And requires a few megawatts... Very good argument to cancel this whole insanity.
> coal and oil extraction
EV charging stations are still using oil and coal. Some are even build with diesel generators, as a "backup" (like at night).
The fact that something needs energy doesn't mean we shouldn't build it.
You keep talking about diesel generators. So what if these chargers have diesel generators for backup. People in EVs are probably ok with a fall back to diesel generators - they probably all used to drive petrol cars. It's not this smoking gun you think it is.
The point is that we are moving from oil to not-oil and EVs make this a reality even if occasionally they fall back to the way things are done at the moment (i.e. using oil)
If EVs use diesel generators and coal, they are not zero emmisions. In fact ICEs produce less CO2 emmisions, if you count energy losses from charging, battery production etc...
It is another Enron waiting to happen!
It’s taken time to build all the other infrastructure, why do we think that a whole new transport infrastructure across all the states should just magically appear in 2 years.
> The first Superchargers in the world opened in 2012 in the United States. Six stations were deployed along Interstate 5 in California, enabling trips from Los Angeles, California and San Francisco, California and two stations deployed along Interstate 95, enabling trips between Boston, Massachusetts and Washington, DC. By mid-July 2013, 15 stations were open across the United States.
So, a little more than seven - barely - in the first two years of the project, if you count the presumably non-zero time in advance of the first install for construction, permiting, etc.
Among them, getting manufacturers to agree on a charging standard, which only happened very recently. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Charging_Standa...
> From June 2023 through February 2024, automakers BMW Group, Fisker, General Motors, Honda, Hyundai Motor Group, Jaguar Land Rover, Lotus Cars, Lucid Motors, Mazda, Mercedes-Benz, Nissan, Polestar, Rivian, Stellantis, Subaru, Toyota, Volvo Cars, and Volkswagen Group all announced that they would equip their electric vehicles sold in the North American market with NACS charge ports from the factory starting in 2025, with adapters available for existing vehicles. As of February 2024, Mitsubishi Motors is the only legacy automaker who has not announced that it will adopt NACS.
I promise you, my decade of experience building websites helps me do it faster than a newbie using the same tools.
> Nigro says that the process — states have to submit plans to the Biden administration for approval, solicit bids on the work, and then award funds — has taken much of the first two years since the funding was approved. “I expect it to go much faster in 2024,” he added.
With due cause, in my opinion. It was hard work! This isn't just "how do we charge", but a much more comprehensive effort to make information on chargers available in real time. So people can see where chargers are, find working ones, pick where to go that will give them fast charging, and also give them a view to see over time which chargers tend to be reliable or not.
There was a very smart effort to make sure enough open data would come from this initiative so that consumers can effectively use this infrastructure, and have faith in it, which seems to have been a bit of a missing link in the past with out-of-service and slow charging experiences degrading trust. This is also key to monitoring these chargers to make sure these folks remain qualified for their funding!
Once standards were set, then folks have to design or update equipment to match. Data registries need to be setup to host these extensive APIs. We should expect this to take time.
I am very on board here. The pace does not seem slow to me. There's a lot do complexity that had to go into building standards that would make sure this money is well used.
That we haven't used billions of dollars in a year and change does not seem weird to me. It seems responsible, if we're trying to govern & help a complex ecosystem forward to benefit common welfare. This, to me, seems good. Outrage is easy, appreciating & helping the world is more complex. I'd love to see a world that can better curate & appreciate how complex things are, that can dig into the depth. A world of nuance leads to people who are aware & helpful.
Yes, it might take time. But better comms would be wise. Sure that might delay EV adoption, but so releasing gas from the national stockpile to keep the price of gas down.