Interesting how people believe some chemicals in the atmosphere could cause storms and floods but at the same time deny the possibility that much more carbon dioxide could change the climate.
of course, being stupid,they refuse to call themselves into question, which blocks them from changing their behavior, which will lead to more suffering on their part...
It’s good for everyone if the Floridians can stay in Florida.
A LOT of the CC talk in the media is too complex, abstract and focuses on engineering or financial concepts that many people don't really grapple with day to day.
TV shows like Clarksons Farm are better at conveying the complexity of the changes.
The effect of CO2 in the atmosphere is less than that, but it's always there. You just don't see the cloud because CO2 is transparent.
The effect of CO2 in the atmosphere is less than that, but it's always there. The amount can be measured with CO2 meters, and it's going up. You just don't see the cloud because CO2 is transparent.
Also the outgroup in this case is science/scientists.
It's just, (a) CO2 is invisible, and (b) CO2 being this chemical is politically unacceptable to people who make money selling carbon rich fuels and also to people who are currently unable to switch to a different power supply.
https://iee.psu.edu/news/podcast/growing-impact-contrails-an...
This was in the news recently as Google removed this aspect from its flight GHG impact estimate as it was averaging over all flights, and intends to adjust it in future so that flights at the time of day that create contrails will have more GHG impact attributed to them.
The problem is the people who spent half their day reading and sharing fake scientific articles. Those are not really "tuning out".
There's nothing simple about about government agencies and weather manipulating satellites though.
It seems like the reality is the exact opposite. Science is way too boring and simple for most people, and unlike conspiracy theories science doesn't absolve you of responsibility. Therefore those people will rather invent 500 pages of crackpot lore rather than take a high school chemistry or math class.
Though back then it was easy, you could just say god
I mean, sure, maybe HAARP is bs, what do I know, but ruling out cloud seeding and weather modification techniques such as stratospheric aerosol injection is borderline ignorant and ignoring science.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Persian_Gulf_floods#Cloud...
It's fascinating and scary at the same time. It's what happens when you do motivated thinking for decades. He believes in all the alt-right crap about "gender ideology", "fake climate change", "fake pandemic", etc. He just completely ignores any data that contradicts what he thinks.
In middle school he "just" disliked gays and was pretty normal overall. Now there's no subject on which you can talk with him without some batshit insane views.
A big part of this is splinters of American culture war that spreads over the rest of the world as a side-effect. I can understand why some people in US think cancel culture and wokeness went too far. But then you have people repeating the same "antiwoke" alt-right points imported from USA in countries where you go to jail for criticizing Catholic Church and president together with main bishop go on anti-gay hate campaigns on state TV. And somehow it's still the alt-right that fights for "free speech", when they have no problem with "go to jail for blasphemy" laws.
Once you buy into this culture war and decide you're on one side - you interpret all new data accordingly. So you cannot believe in climate change, cause that's what leftists do. So if you see climate change - it's because NWO causes it with contrails. Trump is your guy cause he hates gays. So if he does things that benefit Russia - it's his brilliant plan to deal with Putin that you simply can't understand yet.
Always add more hidden variables that make your worldview consistent.
I'm yet to hear of such a country. Aren't you thinking of lese majesté laws that some countries like Spain and the Netherlands have?
There's about 50 people sentenced per year.
My point wasn't that, my point was that people supporing these consider themselves "fighting for free speech" because they want to be able to insult minorities.
Only obvious one where this may be currently enforced is El Salvador? Though I can't quickly find any recent examples, so maybe that's not true. And places like Monaco still haven't repealed those laws. Edit: also Poland – from a sibling comment.
My friend works in IT and earns probably in the 99th or 98th percentile in the country. It's not that. In fact I don't think economic wellbeing is related at all. Poland has been doing great economically for the last 30 years, and yet the conspiracy theories are spreading.
I mostly blame social media. Previously if you wanted to know how the climate works you looked it up in encyclopedia, watched some TV or asked a teacher. They mostly weren't spreading bullshit.
Now you search internet and there's so much bullshit confirming all your wrong ideas you can spend weeks reading just that.
I also know a huge amount of conspiracy theory believers in the medical area. Also otherwise competent.
If anything, the correlation with loneliness or low status was reverse: the richer and high-status, the more blatant and visible those beliefs were. People in low-prestige professions, or poor? It was very rare to see them talk about it.
I'm don't believe in conspiracy theories however, because I'm mature enough to accept that sometimes bad things happen for reasons other than "evil underground cabal of satanists".
especially this one - these people seem like they're in denial about their actions causing climate change causing their catastrophic weather, so they invent invisible bogeymen to blame.
I imagine that when they get dumped by their girlfriend, they'll blame it on George Soros manipulating her via 5G raditation instead of "well maybe she didn't like you being an abusive alcoholic who cheated on her?"
What was once used to create a laugh, the absurdness of tangents and conspiracies, is now serious because it's attributed to a virtualized antagonist, who is manipulating our lives and making fun of it, by exploiting collective behavior, pulling the strings.
It's us that do not see we are manipulated, and that we are propelled to invest towards what's not in our own interest, taking them for a ride to an unwanted future. They must feel their control over their own lives is being taken away.
Perhaps like the jews knowingly went to the slaughter, and they could not be convinced to revolt themselves and fight for their life?
The latter part of your comment was hard to parse for me, I can only say that some Jews did revolt (for example in Warsaw Ghetto). But I'm not sure what was your point with this analogy.