Berlin Tesla activists say civil disobedience is only option

Tesla is not some necessity, it doesn't have to expand, this isn't like rejecting housing or new sanitation facilities.

At some point we all just project “Gfy.” and refuse to “blink” and measure ourselves; we just keep rolling, saying “Gfy.” to those in the way. Maybe we couch that in pointless arguments like “where else should this unnecessary car company exist?”

Doesn’t really seem like just a “German greens” thing to project non-existent authority

And yes, activists will loose that fight, but they'll go on and ultimately, things will change. Paid holidays came like this. The end of slavery too. And a few other things.

There's no "realistic solution" because there is simply no choice to make. It's just "no means no".

Now, hopefully, those activists won't buy cars or buy the least possible. And that will have an effect too. But then you'll say: "if we stop selling cars then what's the solution? what about the workforce". Then again: they'll do something else. Because the governments don't want to see unemployment. And maybe there will be too much unemployment. But then again, maybe it's time to adapt to a new world where 50% of population is unemployed. But believe me, when that number will be big enough, politics will adapt.

That sentence falsely implies that all German anti-nuclear sentiment is a result of Russian (and previous soviet) financing, which gives the wrong impression, I think. Some more depth:

Growing up and living here, Germany’s anti-nuclear sentiment is majorly home-grown. You don’t get the multi-million public demonstrations just on foreign-financed activists. You don’t get multiple German federal election won just on foreign-financed activists. Insinuating so disregards the local politics and societal sentiment of Germany from ca. the 70s onwards.

Germany’s anti-nuclear sentiment is based on multiple strands, in my experience:

* General “radiation” skepticism, amplified by literature including children’s literature and tv reporting, sometimes even by real scandals like the leukemia thing.

* The very real possibility of Germany automatically becoming a nuclear battlefield of hundreds nuclear tactical explosions in the Cold War. Both the Warsaw Pact and NATO planned going nuclear from the first day. (Nuclear weapons and power are of course different things, but ... well)

* The search of nuclear waste storage location (not just spent nuclear fuel but secondary waste, high and intermediate level waste) was absurdly missmanaged. And then there is a string of accidents at pilot waste storage facilities. In my opinion you can’t explain the 2011 decision on Fukushima alone without talking about the preceding Asse II scandal.

* And yes, Three Mile Island, Chernobyl and Fukushima turbocharged pre-existing sentiments.

That is not to say Russia (and the Soviet Union before) as petro-states don’t have an interest and don’t try to corrupt. They certainly do.

Given what we know, they seem to have targeted politicians [1], more with a Pro-Gas-message, less with an anti-nuclear or green-energy-message. Both would be dumb for someone who wants to sell fossil fuels [2]. It’s no surprise that they seem now to target AfD and BWS, the far right and left parties with a pro-fossil-fuel-message. But that's the same in all western democracies.

[1] Small nitpick about your source [0]: Waszczykowski is a member of PIS and former minister in Poland’s PIS government. PIS has made a habit out of targeting Germany for domestic populist sentiment and in intra-EU squabbles. I’d interpret the question partially in that light. Giving the timing of that question I’d suspect the somewhat distorted kernel of truth must be Schwesig and the Nordstream II foundation, but I’d hesitate calling Schwesig an anti-nuclear activist, more a somewhat corrupt or naive politician.

[2] Russian/Soviet Gas was never a replacement for nuclear power in Germany. The vast majority of Germany’s gas usage is residential or industrial not in power plants. Burning gas domestically in apartment/house boilers for heat or in industrial applications doesn’t profit from electric energy – because replacing all these boilers is a multi-generational infrastructure project. Instead nuclear in Germany’s power mix was slowly replaced by by green energy and biofuels: https://www.iea.org/data-and-statistics/data-tools/energy-st...

You clearly do. And I’m not going to pile on and disagree with your opinion, but your comment up thread expresses a pretty clear point of view about what you think of the well off who are berliners protesting Tesla. It’s not “just the facts”. It’s the facts obviously interpreted through your view of the world. Your psychoanalysis of the protesters. Your judgement of the “irony” of their actions.

Most news is like this, yes. And that’s not necessarily a bad thing. But your “realities of what’s happening” are clearly different from that of other people. Let’s not pretend your point of view is in any way objective.