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I'm afraid I really need ^Z, %-, %3 and %foo for interactive use.

See e.g. the top-right xterm in https://trout.me.uk/screenshot3.jpg for why.

Tried to switch to a ksh for a while and ran face first into that, though OpenBSD ksh has added it so I may attempt that one at some point.

(tabs don't fit my brain nearly as well and https://github.com/n-t-roff/heirloom-ex-vi is my usual editor and doesn't provide anything of that ilk anyway ... I may be an outlier ...)

The syntax and semantics seem really rather nice though, I may attempt elvish for scripting at some point.

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I have a ton of respect for whoever sticks to the traditional vi! Not promising anything but this may have bumped the priority of supporting ^Z slightly in my TODO list :)

Also useful for jumping back and forth between e.g. multiple repl sessions (the re.pl on the top left is a readline frontend wired up over a socket to an p3rl.org/Eval::WithLexicals instance running inside the server I was debugging there).

Being able to do e.g. %Task to resume the lib/.../Task.pm editor is -really- nice once you have that many editors open, though I try and stick to about 5 per xterm normally so %- %+ %<digit> would absolutely be enough to get started with.

Traditional Vi? I thought I was hardcore. Certainly an outlier, in a good way :)

If I'm on somebody else's system and need to hit the ground running Right Now then this comes into play instead - https://trout.me.uk/X11/vimrc (I think it's been a few years now since I've been annoyed enough by something in vim to figure out how to turn it off and add yet another line to that ;)

Out of curiosity, why bother to unmap the cursor keys? I don't ever use them in vim either, but is there something that is prevented from working with having them mapped in vim?

It can be useful to crush old habits.

Also very useful if you do a lot of context switching or are an occasional user, to make sure your brain and fingers are in "vim mode" (at least one other line in the file makes this rather obvious)

And once it's there, why bother removing it? I think you are in minority if you actively prune your vimrc for dead config...

I never had those habits, though I have passed that stanza on to people who were just learning to help remind them to use hjkl.

I just tend to turn off things I only ever hit by accent (see also the :h override).

Because I don't ever hit them except by accident while using vi(m) so disabling means an accidental keypress does nothing rather than something I didn't want.

(my main reason for preferring original ex-vi is that when I typo a command, it beeps at me, whereas in vim the typo is usually some completely unrelated but valid command sequence and then WTF JUST HAPPENED and argh)

Clever w.r.t. "job control as task-switcher". The absurdity of that statement being clever kindof stares you in the face a bit, huh? Don't forget ^T for SIGINFO: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_(IPC)#Sending_signals

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