1. It does not support end-to-end-encrypted (E2EE) group chat at all.
2. It does not enable E2EE chat by default.
3. "Secret Chat" (the only E2EE encrypted chat) experience is deliberated nerfed, it's not available on PC / Web and can only be initiated with a buried-in-dot-menu option in phone ap.
4. It had multiple weird 0-click attack surface in the past. [0]
In addition, Telegram always prefers usability over privacy, it does not do tradeoff, more like 100% usability 0% privacy. Users like this, but I don't know what to think about it.
[0] Signal isn't any better on this though, they refused to add an option to disable their video/audio call stack for those who don't use it to do attack-surface reduction.
The only chats that use their e2ee protocol are the ones that use the secret chat functionality which almost no one uses.
The whole fucking thing should die in a fire.
I was responding to this. But in most cases people will end up using the things that their communities use. I don't care much for reddit yet I am on reddit almost every day
Discord has that whole thing with "servers" (should really be called communities) and I found it a little complicated for that use case.
Discord itself calls them "guilds" internally. :)
Well, not everything. I dream of a world where Signal forks the UI layer from Telegram and then just does their thing.
(Who knows, the chat input might just finally focus when I tab back to the fucking window if they do that.)