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Oh yeah, weekly cleaning cycles, filters, special rinsing fluids and milk tubing that requires daily flushing. Also the machine needs to keep it's water block hot, else the startup time is a few minutes - so constant power draw.

If you have an office where the machine makes 100+ coffees it makes perfect sense. In a domestic setup it makes 0 sense.

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Yeah, good point on the constant power draw too. I forgot to mention the last bit of kit I use to make my simple at-home coffees: an electric kettle. (And speaking of which, if I ever build my own home, I'm putting 240V counter-top outlets in the kitchen.)

Yeah thats a strange US only quirk: lack of kettles and 120V power. I have a 3Kw kettle at home. I boils 2l of water in a few minutes. If I add just enough for one hot drink, then it finishes before I have my mug and ingredients ready.

I cannot imagine a home without a kettle, its the first appliance I bought when I moved countries. I also cannot abide by a kettle less than 3Kw anymore either.

It's annoying because we have dedicated 240V circuits for all major installed appliances in US households (drying machine, electric stove, HVAC), as well as, increasingly, 240V circuits in the garage for EV charging.

But no one is putting in 240V circuits for countertop plug-in appliances afaik, even though there's absolutely no reason you can't do so.

And by the way, electric kettle are quite common in the US amongst the tea or fancy coffee drinking set.

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