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Google operates in China albeit via their HK domain.

They also had project DragonFly if you remember.

The lesser of two evils is that one company doesn’t try to actively profile me (in order for their ads business to be better) with every piece of data it can find and forces me to share all possible data with them.

Google is famously known to kill apps that are good and used by customers: https://killedbygoogle.com/

As for the subpar apps: there is a massive difference between the network traffic when on the Home Screen between iOS and Android.

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>Google operates in China albeit via their HK domain.

The Chinese government has access to the iCloud account of every Chinese Apple user.

>They also had project DragonFly if you remember.

Which never materialized.

>The lesser of two evils is that one company doesn’t try to actively profile me (in order for their ads business to be better) with every piece of data it can find and forces me to share all possible data with them.

Apple does targeted and non targeted advertising as well. Additionally, your carrier has likely sold all of the data they have on you. Apple was also sued for selling user data to ad networks. Odd for a Privacy First company to engage in things like that.

>Google is famously known to kill apps that are good and used by customers: https://killedbygoogle.com/

Google has been around for 26 years I believe. According to that link 60 apps were killed in that timeframe. According to your statement that Google kills an app a month that would leave you 252 apps short. Furthermore, the numbers would indicate that Google has killed 2.3 apps per year or .192 apps per month.

>As for the subpar apps: there is a massive difference between the network traffic when on the Home Screen between iOS and Android.

Not sure how that has anything to do with app quality, but if network traffic is your concern there's probably a lot more an Android user can do than an iOS user to control or eliminate the traffic.

> Google has been around for 26 years I believe. According to that link 60 apps were killed in that timeframe. According to your statement that Google kills an app a month that would leave you 252 apps short. Furthermore, the numbers would indicate that Google has killed 2.3 apps per year or .192 apps per month.

Most of the "Services" on that list are effectively apps, too:

VPN by Google One, Album Archive, Hangouts, all the way back to Answers, Writely, and Deskbar.

I didn't touch hardware, because I think that should be considered separately.

The first of 211 services on that site was killed in 2006.

The first of the 60 apps on that site was killed in 2012.

So even apps alone, 4.28 a year.

But more inclusively, 271 apps or services in 17 years is ~16/year, over one a month.

You need to remind yourself of the site guidelines about assuming the worst. Your comments just come across condescendingly.

>Most of the "Services" on that list are effectively apps, too:

Even with the additional apps you've selected it still doesn't come close to the one app per month claim.

>I didn't touch hardware, because I think that should be considered separately.

So why even mention it? Is Apple impervious to discontinuing hardware?

>The first of 211 services on that site was killed in 2006.

So we're talking about services now? Or apps? Or apps and services? The goal posts keep moving.

>You need to remind yourself of the site guidelines about assuming the worst. Your comments just come across condescendingly.

I suggest you also consult the guidelines in regards to calling people names. My comments were never intended to be inferred that way.

> The Chinese government has access to the iCloud account of every Chinese Apple user.

Source?

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