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Conversely, I really like using my iPad Pro as a daily driver (eg. Slides, light blogging, Notion, reading, Zoom, Slack, etc) as most of my core apps and usecases are either PWAs or Apps already.

And I think this is the target demographic of the iPad - either creative types (eg. designers or musicians) or executives (eg. Consultants, PMs, etc) who are not code driven but still need a workbook style environment. From a security standpoint it is best for these users to be locked down (Least Privilege is a good security model to follow for non-technical users).

P.S. I do have my own ancient Macbook that I installed Ubuntu on for my own light hacking, but most of my personal tinkering dev is now on Cloud GPU instances so all I need is a dumb terminal for SSH.

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>Conversely, I really like using my iPad Pro as a daily driver (eg. Slides, light blogging, Notion, reading, etc) a

Which of those things requires an expensive, top-of-the-line tablet?

User Experience.

A Windows workbook or a Chromebook sucks from a UX standpoint due to either performance issues or driver inoperatbility.

Pricing is comparable to a MS Surface or Chromebook Pro.

>A Windows workbook or a Chromebook sucks from a UX standpoint

Subjective, but sure, valid. Both of those systems have more flexibility.

>Pricing is comparable to a MS Surface or Chromebook Pro.

Yes, and I wouldn't be buying one of those for light reading or taking notes in Notion, either.

> Yes, and I wouldn't be buying one of those for light reading or taking notes in Notion, either.

I'm using it for work, so I am either getting it reimbursed or provided by my employer (in my case), or if I'm running a solo business/self employed (as plenty of creators are) you can get tax credits and a partial reimbursement as it's being used for work as well.

Like I mentioned before, the target demographic is Creators or Executives, but also (increasingly) schools.

> Both of those systems have more flexibility

Absolutely, but that flexibility is a security vector for most non-technical users.

There's a reason companies spend 7-8 figures on XDRs like CRWD/S1/Cortex, or are looking to Secure Browsers like Surf, Talon, or Arc.

Come on, a Chromebook is just as secure as an iPad.

Required or desired? What alternative would you suggest?

Desired.

And honestly, I can't think of alternatives other than maybe less powered iPad SKUs.

If you aren't technically minded, Least Privileged Access to your computing platform is for the best, because remediating security incidents is hard.

No offense to GP, but GP made me wonder if the creative side of the story is just a massive fluff to hide the fact that iPad are built for consultancy tasks first. Having to resort to a premium creator product because your job demands it sounds like an awesome justification for buying a tablet.

> built for consultancy tasks first

Consultancies (MBB) tend to cheap out and give Thinkbooks and Product teams tend to get a bottom spec MacBook at work.

Do you have a physical keyboard mouse that you use?

I use the Logitech keyboard case with the trackpad. That and keybindings are good enough for my usecase (but tbf, I started my career as an Eng using Vim so keybindings are second nature to me)

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