NYU professors who defended vaping didn't disclose ties to Juul

Nicotine gum is relatively harmless for example. Or perhaps imbibe on a Nicotini[0]?

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotini

Caffeine and nicotine both exist in gum form. Have their been studies comparing that?

[0] which, to my horror, I just discovered actually exist

I guess vaping/nicotine, while not the worst vice out there, is still a vice lol; so they have their own dangers.

Are vapers more likely to get a heart attack or are people with a stressful life with a higher risk of a heart attack more likely to be vapers?

Sorry. Could not resist.

I've been on nicotine patches for several years (treating ADHD - very effective) and I'm not addicted at all. I still forget and my wife often has to remind me to put on one! There are no reports to the contrary among patch users.

In fact, even moderate pipe smoking reportedly isn't addictive - although it certainly is pleasurable (partly due to the nicotine, but mostly due to other compounds in the smoke). Pipe tobacco doesn't have all the additives (and nicotine salts) that cigarettes have; moreover, unlike cigarette smoking, pipe smoking normally does not involve inhalation—all of which smoothes and limits the nicotine blood concentration/time curve significantly compared to cigarettes and vaping, thus eliminating most of the addictive potential.

More info on nicotine itself - this is essentially a very broad bibliography with some commentary mixed in: https://gwern.net/nicotine

In contrast quitting caffeine took me several tries and I had to very carefully taper over the course of months to eventually be able to do it.

I also quit alcohol and that was pretty easy too. I used to drink every day and then I stopped without much trouble.

The shoving of high-fructose corn syrup and other calorie-rich ingredients into everything sold in the US to increase consumption (again, for profits) has a much greater impact on weight management, though.

The $4 billion gum industry has gone into freefall, with sales down 11% and volume down 20% in the past five years.

https://www.fastcompany.com/3033451/why-nobody-likes-to-chew...

As a father, an uncle, and a dog owner who has changed a lot of diapers and cleaned up a lot of poop (at ~10 years x 365 days x 1-10 events/day x ~1 lbs/event, probably a literal ton of shit) and been numbed to the smell, I'd literally prefer to smell feces in your adult Depends than cigarette smoke on your breath. It's not "hot" at all, completely the opposite.

But since cigarettes also accelerate aging, you don't stay "hot" for too long.

I don't know for sure, but does this imply that the FDA can't really regulate these dispensaries? Since the federal government's official stance on marijuana is "you shouldn't be using it anyway!" then presumably they don't feel the need to ensure purity of the product for dispensaries.

I've said for years that I'm the only person I know that D.A.R.E. was actually effective on; I'm way too much of a coward to consume things that aren't regulated. Even as a teenager I never did any drugs because I was afraid that it might be cut with something horrible like meth and I wouldn't have any recourse for them doing that.

I'm sure most dispensaries are fine, but I'm still kind of afraid of something that doesn't have FDA oversight.

I don't know where you live, but I buy my marijuana from a government store. There exist other countries.

THC-A is just the natural form of good old delta-9 THC while the plant is still freshly harvested and unheated. THC-A is the natural, standard weed chemical that converts to “good old delta-9 THC” at 100% efficiency as soon as the weed is heated for consumption, or while the plant sits around in storage for a long time. The old laws counted THC-A as contributing to delta-9 THC content, you summed them together or converted them before testing to decide if it was hemp. Now it’s treated as a different cannabinoid and only delta-9 content determines if it is hemp or weed.

So yes, weed is now legal nationwide is the USA, and sold in brick-and-mortar stores in all 50 states…it’s just gone completely and utterly under-the-political-radar.

Also “good old delta-9 THC” edibles are legal now as well, at very high strengths, because as long as the total weight is <0.3% delta-9 THC its a “hemp gummie”.

I would trust vape juice 1000x over thc oil, especially if it was unflavored. Vape juice is three ingredients and very easy to get their pure forms. Vape oil is pretty sketchy and has to be done very carefully.

But thc gummies are almost certainly safer than any of the above.

Very much depends on how you define threat.

I'd very much prefer that the driver in the other lane is smoking a ciggy rather that vaping marijuana in the interest of preserving their individual health.

Not as big of a harm reduction as people not smoking anything, which is where we were heading in the 1990s before marijuana legalization.

The kind of model Canada and California follows could be helpful as well, if only prosecution and the stick was also used in conjunction with cracking down on black markets for drugs the same way provinces and CA do on moonshine.

Individuals absolutely should have autonomy to choose what they wish to do, but not if it has an impact on the rest of society.

Fundamentally, some amount of regulation (either via social norms or via actual laws) is needed, yet we as individuals will continue to fight each other while ignoring the core fact that we are all on the same team.

I strongly disagree with Wang and Xi, but on this part I am in agreement - individualism has gone too far in America (both economically and socially), and we need to return to our communitarian roots.

Also, our rate of spirits consumption is higher than most developed countries and comparable to Russia [1]. Most other developed countries tend to stick to beer and wine.

[0] - https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/share-of-adults-who-smoke

[1] - https://ourworldindata.org/alcohol-consumption

In certain parts of society that is what happens, including fun places like the European Parliament.

If you were to test YC applicants for Adderall (illicit or otherwise) I wouldn't be at all surprised if it were over half of them, and if you would be surprised you're naive.

The piece entertains this and struggles with it for a while, before turning to experts on the biochemistry of nicotine.

TL;DR: “omg, lol, of course it makes you feel awesome and enhances performance on mental tasks in particular, here’s a list of the exact ways it affects your body to 100% for-sure do those things, that’s part of why it’s so incredibly difficult to quit for many people”

It's not [0]

[0] https://gwern.net/nootropic/nootropics#nicotine

You weren't "duped." You wrote a law without red-teaming it thinking like a corporation.

Here’s a pretty comprehensive list of the benefits of nicotine and the lack of significant side effects.

https://gwern.net/nicotine#benefits

Here’s the conclusion he came up with after significant perusal of the research

“Nicotine is pretty much harmless, the studies are clear, the relevant areas & studies comprehensible with not too much work, and I feel I can discuss it with a clean conscience. Really, about the worst you can say about pure nicotine use is that it might be a gateway to tobacco or that one’s blood pressure might increase, which are issues that can be easily addressed empirically via additional studies/surveys or by eg. measuring one’s own blood pressure after taking nicotine, respectively.”

For all the other things, the same can be said about coffee. Are we banning coffee?

So, I also support "deny by default" policies for addictive substances. The problem is "deny by default" has a side effect of creating unregulated black markets. So it's a really hard problem, at least from my perspective.

I don't think about the downvote. The comment might be considered as shallow, or some people might really want the freedom, I don't know, and frankly, I don't care.

The latter isn't much like OG mango, fair warning, but you'll probably like it if you were a fan of the old school.

The trick with refilling is to press the sides in when replacing the rubber stopper. If you do it right, you'll see a bubble or two rise up from the bottom. If you skip this part it will leak everywhere. Also, blow through the cart several times to clear the tube. It's a bit fiddly at first, but you'll get the hang of it.

While I don't deny that vaping companies and their corporate cheer leaders may have made the same argument, what exactly is the problem with this argument on merit?