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The thing I hate most about my Camry Hybrid is that it doesn't have a CD player... but if I wanted one [just like an AM radio] I'd pay to have a new radio unit installed.

For now I'm enjoying the free satelite radio trial.

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One of the most aggravating and rather stupid things in my opinion about newer cars, is if you wanted to install a different or new head unit, it has gotten way more complex. I really miss just being able to buy a regular single-DIN or double-DIN radio and with a small amount of work being able to install it. I wish to god manufacturers would stop trying to integrate everything into the console, and have a standard head unit format, so that I could have more easy choice as to what goes in there, especially as the car ages.

Did it not become more complex to prevent theft?

Thats only part of the story

I think the more generous, less arguable, and less conspiratorial reason would be that climate control and other car-related features have been integrated into one UI resulting in a net-better experience and quality finish.

I feel like it's a worse UI and worse experience. By leaps and bounds. Less reliable, harder to operate, over reliant on terrible software and underpowered hardware. Some of the android auto and apple car play stuff is acceptable, but not great.

The Tesla integrated climate/vehicle control/entertainment system is absolutely fine by Silicon Valley standards, far better than CarPlay and Android, and leaps and bounds better than other manufacturers' poor implementations of these features (integrated or not.)

You could make the argument that "physical buttons are safer," but that doesn't mean the UI that accompanied these buttons was that great.

Most vehicles pre-touchscreen had vehicle control functions on shitty jog wheels or arrow buttons on the steering wheel (maybe with a 7 segment display, maybe an LCD.)

"I wish to god manufacturers would stop trying to integrate everything into the console"

Right, it's really a damn nuisance. I want to change the radio and it's nigh on impossible.

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