Seems like they're finally doing something about that, to set an example for the rest of the industry.
Seems like they're finally doing something about that, to set an example for the rest of the industry.
Giant products like AWS and Azure are too big to grill about their security controls. If you try to ask an AWS rep about something, they'll direct you to their security portal where you can download a SOC2 report and a few other things. That's about all you'll get from them unless you're equally huge. The most you can really go by is their reputation. If you trust AWS, buy their product. If you don't, don't. That's all the prior research a typical < 10,000 employee business can possibly do.
My suspicion is that your friend is only talking to clients who've vetted Azure and figured "it's Microsoft: they're big so they probably know more about it than I do". It's not that they don't care. It's that there's nothing they can do about it. The people who don't already trust Azure would never have gotten as far as talking to your friend in the first place.
But in practice, yes many clients probably assume that by running in the cloud, they're "secure" (thus, failing their end of the bargain).
A lot of them don't make much sense for us, we primarily make a Win32 B2B program hosted by these customers themselves and a lot of the checklists are all about more generic web SaaS things (because we charge like SaaS). But the person on the other end wants all the questions answered regardless.
Seems that as long as you can put a checkmark in a box that you follow various "best practices" and whatnot, actual details don't matter. You put a checkmark in a box, you did your best.
My current place, there are developers still using like node 10 and other ancient software, but god forbid you not fill out a checklist.
Very often the best answer would be like:
> Q: Do you use multi-tenant databases?
> A: N/A: you'll be deploying our product on your own server.
That's actually a perfectly fine answer! The person reading it doesn't have to explain large gaps in the answers to their boss. It documents why this isn't relevant in a way their successor can easily understand next year when they're reviewing those 100 vendors as part of their annual Vendor Management Policy™ process.
"Which controls exist for medical data?"
"Sir, this is a Wendy's™ app."
If you see the same questions over and over and over again, consider filling out a SIG LITE questionnaire and offering that to buyers from the start. If you can give them all or most of the info they need in a common format, you might be able to head off a lot of follow-up questions.
It's the same thing every time because the actual security is in the details, but details are so fucking boring.
This is a step in the right direction to get the top-layer prioritizing security.
The main challenge he highlighted is there're no financial incentives for most companies in the industry to stay secure (unless you're a security company) - the punishment (including reputational risk) is just way too small.
Even the good people at microsoft will forever be undermined by this shit, complete demoralization and throwing their hands up to doing anything properly