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Jmp.chat aka https://www.reddit.com/r/sopranica/ has built a whole business around xmpp for privacy, and it seems like there's often new XEPs adding features to the ecosystem.

Matrix has way better marketing, but XMPP just works (and has been working well for over a decade).

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    Matrix has way better marketing, but XMPP just works (and has been working well for over a decade).

I have been thoroughly unimpressed by matrix. Connectivity issues, messages out of order, encryption errors, undelivered messages. From the way people talk about it I seem to be the only one, though.

On the other side I have had no issues with xmpp, despite using several devices for the same account.

You're not the only one, I've had the same experience with matrix and there was a blog post at the top of HN a few months ago titled "The Matrix Trashfire".

> From the way people talk about it I seem to be the only one, though

Not at all, I know a lot of people for whom the state of the main implementations is a show stopper.

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