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And on top of that, Debian's bug tracker is where development happens (as opposed to Ubuntu's, which is a black hole). And packages that cannot be built, get a bug report BEFORE the release on Debian, but are silently not included in the release on Ubuntu. Ubuntu is "Debian with extra crap and extra bugs". Debian strongly recommended.

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I feel this has changed over the years too. Many years ago I chose Ubuntu as it was fresher and bugs seemed to be fixed quicker, maybe as it was always more recent.

I moved to Debian and found there was not really any small bugs and, as a bonus, no major things completely broken like Ubuntu broke a few packages with some sort of snap dpkg confusion.

Ubuntu has a bit of a stinky vibe lately. The whole lxd thing and the number of people I know, some I have worked with and are great, went to work there and left quickly.

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