Are Japanese anime robots isometric or allometric?
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Looks like some ships are a few times heavier than that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_machines#Sea_v...
There's an important distinction between mass of the vessel's own structure, the bare necessities like fuel, stores & crew, and its payload. Naval engineering and insurance talks several interrelated measures, for our purposes "light load displacement" is the closest to the weight of the bare structure, while "full load displacement" includes all typical stores, fuel, crew, and payload. Conversely the linked measures "gross weight tonnage" is measure of volume rather than mass, and less relevant for this discussion.
For combat vessels like USS Gerald Ford, most of the weight is in the structure itself, and while we don't have exact measures for the carrier, it's about 100,000 tonnes. For reference, an older generation but comparable carrier USS Nimitz has structure of 78280 tons ("light load displacement"), and all up weight 101196 tons ("full load displacement").
However for transport vessels like the linked Seawise Giant, the structure is small part of all up weight. While the ship plus cargo can go up to 646,642 long tons ("full load displacement"), the structure itself is much lighter: 81,879 long tons ("light load displacement").
Also the linked cruise ship, Icon of the Seas, has impressively high "gross weight tonnage" but again that's measure of volume. The displacement is a bit hard to find, people quote variously 100,000t or 120,000t without being specific light load or full load. So while the cruise ship is much larger by volume than the military vessel, the weight of the structure is closely comparable. The later is much more densely packed - keeping size down is a necessity for any combat craft, even the largest ones.
Long ton = 2240 lb (1016 kg)
Short ton = 2000 lb (907 kg)
Tonne = 2205 lb (1000 kg)
Long tons are rarely used outside shipping. Short tons are what people mean when they say ton in America. Tonne is the metric ton and is what most of the rest of the world means when you hear something that sounds like ton.
Is it? It's also 5 times longer (and presumably wider) than the Nimitz aircraft carrier. That would mean that Macross is only about 5-6x denser than the Nimitz aircraft carrier, which isn't entirely out of the realm of reason for a futuristic space battleship. If nothing else, having several tens of meters of dense matter between the innards and the outside where high energy photons are flying around sounds like a great idea.
It was also originally meant to house creatures much larger than humans, which correspondent mass, so the structure of the ship would reflect that.
And yeah there's not much mainstream, but you always get some Mazinger spinoff, some Gundam and other "minor" stuff. The genre is definitely not popular but it's alive.
Super Robot Taisen is also still ongoing, and while it's not a show (although it's been adapted a few times) it's a good way to find stuff that might have escaped your radar. And the originals can help quench the thirst for new cool robots with flashy moves. Lately they have been adding "never animated" stuff like Mazinger ZERO, GaoGaiGar Vs. Betterman and Getter Devolution which is nice too.
"Robot" is used to describe autonomous system, like Marvin or Laputian Robot Troopers
Like the meaning of the term "anime" changed?
EDIT: I'm being pedantic. When used in English, "mecha" or "mech" is an English word and the semantics associated with similar words in other languages don't really matter. Where it gets confusing is that it's used in the context of discussing Japanese media (and its foreign derivatives) in English. The reason I'm being pedantic is that my native language is German and not only have German loanwords in English often mutated in ways that trip up German native speakers (e.g. wanderlust is better translated as Fernweh, whereas Wanderlust is more about hiking and being in nature) but the same is true in the inverse, i.e. a lot of English loan words in German have different or narrower meanings than in English (e.g. a Burger is not a type of Sandwich as that specifically refers to a sandwich using white bread and a Hot Dog always includes the bread and topping/sauces whereas the hot dog is just a Wurst and ground beef is never referred to as sausage or burger).
But they're .... not robots? It's more like "big, stompy powered armor"
Brilliant
For anyone OOTL, the show features robots at an intergalactic scale, such that the crew needs to invent FTL communications and travel just to communicate and move within the ship proper.
Could you provide the full name of the show?
Titans are closer to summoned creatures. And they're not the product of technology.
Otherwise, a fight between two pregnant women could be seen as a mech fight.
> Otherwise, a fight between two pregnant women could be seen as a mech fight.
No. You are missing the fact that in AoT the pilots pilot the mechas, and not just be there doing whatever embryos do.
I mean, when you consider what pregnancy does to an expectant mother, hormonally, and the lengths to which some will go to protect their unborn child... It's not an entirely implausible characterization.
But speaking to AOT, specifically, it's real robot with some super robot/fantasy/Abrahamic text characteristics to allow for the setting. Despite the "summoning" aspect, practical considerations of when and how to employ titans, the political, social, and philosophical ramifications of their existence and use, and the fact that the story is ultimately a study of characters caught up in war and history and intrigue, all point to a solid mecha, real robot classification.
t. Gendo and Seele
Any other new dubbed mecha anime recommendations would be highly appreciated. Ideally, less child-focused.
Gundam: Hathaway is quite excellent. Adult characters dealing like (idealistically pragmatic) adults with not just the events of the film, but where, exactly, they are in the history and sociopolitical standing of their world.
Others in the thread have mentioned 86, that is a good one. Without spoiling: very interesting setting, themes that get touched on include racism, AI, drone warfare, relationship of soldiers to civilian life.