Akiya houses: why Japan has nine million empty homes
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I don't know the motive behind that tax law, but if they reversed it I bet a lot of those eyesores would be torn down and replaced with a little much needed green space. In my wife's neighborhood in suburban Tokyo there were several lots used as mini farms or fruit tree orchards. An infinitely better use of the space IMO.
If you look around Tokyo and see the dumbest set up parking lot possible, it's often a land owner who's just gotta put something there.
My guess: tearing all those buildings down and dealing with the trash and demolished materials takes a lot of labor and possibly a "supply chain" (since you're presumably centralizing it for dumping/incineration). But the circumstances that got you into the situation are 1) shrinking population (small labor force) and 2) too much space in the countryside that people already consider low-value. Essentially, you don't want to incentivize a demolition industry expansion to clear land no one wants anyway; there are more important things to be doing.
The cost varies, but according to this article [1] it is about about ¥1.2M-¥1.5M ($7.7K to $9.6K USD) on average to demolish a wooden house, although I suspect in rural areas it could be done for quite a bit less due to lower labor costs and not needing to worry as much about neighboring properties, directing traffic, etc. This reddit post from 5 years ago [2] says they were able to demolish an abandoned home and dispose of all the crap inside for ¥800,000 ($5.1K USD). So not exactly cheap, but not prohibitively expensive either I think if the government could provide the right incentives (e.g. combination of eliminating the tax reduction for abandoned home, and also maybe offer some subsidy).
It definitely makes sense to prioritize homes where there is some demand for the land, though. There's a home in my neighborhood that has been vacant for 5+ years. And if they were to demolish the home and put the lot up for sale I feel they could sell it fairly quickly (less than 1 year) and easily recouperate the demolition costs and get ¥4M+ for the land.
[1] https://www.arrowsrealty.com/column/how-much-is-the-cost-of-...
[2] https://www.reddit.com/r/japanlife/comments/9inwp1/demolitio...
I think they probably just didn't foresee a massive population decline coming when the law was originally enacted, and this was just an unintended side effect. Now the government views the huge number of abandoned homes as a social issue that needs to be addressed. And, as I mentioned in another comment up above, the law was already amended in 2023 to exclude abandoned homes from preferential tax treatment.
I do agree with your point that increased demand for demolition services will increase prices and probably divert labor from other industries. But I don't see this as a huge problem. The supply chains/expertise already exist due to Japan's historical preference for demolishing and building new, and it requires mostly unskilled labor (except for the guy operating heavy machinery), so it should be fairly straightforward to ramp up.
Okay. You'd have to explain why.
>Much the opposite - the purpose of the law is to encourage the efficient use of land.
That's not the opposite of my argument. It's not even mutually exclusive with it.
>I think they probably just didn't foresee a massive population decline coming when the law was originally enacted
Since that would be 1950, that's plausible. But I think that actually also bolsters my case. 5 years post-war, the last thing the government would have wanted is labor going towards demolishing homes that didn't need to be, just because it would be tax-advantaged; the focus would have been rebuilding. Again, I think that it's plausible that this effect was the intention. However, what's changed are the circumstances, as you said. The law didn't keep up with them until the act passed in 2014.
Probably still too early to say whether the change is having an impact, or how broadly it is being enforced.
[1] https://www.loc.gov/item/global-legal-monitor/2023-07-02/jap...
Obviously it backfired.
China probably has so many vacant homes that even 1.4 billion people can’t fill, according to an estimate of a former deputy head of its National Bureau of Statistics last September [1].
If each vacant home is occupied by a household of 2.76 [2], there are about 510 million vacant homes in China. That’s 55 times Japan’s.
But China’s population is only about 11 times Japan’s. And vacant homes only multiply over time [3].
[1] https://www.reuters.com/world/china/even-chinas-14-bln-popul...
> How many vacant homes are there now? Each expert gives a very different number, with the most extreme believing the current number of vacant homes are enough for 3 billion people
> That estimate might be a bit much, but 1.4 billion people probably can't fill them
[2] https://www.statista.com/statistics/1087871/china-average-ho...
> The national average was 2.76 people per household in 2022.
[3] https://www.tbsnews.net/international/empty-houses-hit-recor...
See the chart.
"Since the 1980s, China has built enough new housing to re-house the entire population but the construction boom has become a self-sustaining, perpetual engine of construction for the sake of construction – supply with no demand. And there are not just miles of empty apartment blocks but entire “ghost cities” complete with office towers, hospitals, schools, futuristic airports, museums, universities, libraries, theaters, sports fields, and miles and miles of apartment towers and subdivisions of McMansions – but almost no people. (20) Twenty-one percent of China’s urban residents, the wealthy and middle classes, own two urban apartments, some own three or four – all bought for speculation, not to live in, not vacation homes. More than 22.4 percent of urban apartments and houses remained vacant in 2014. (21) By one estimate, more than 64 million surplus apartments had been built in China, enough to house almost half the population of the United States, yet millions more are under construction."
BTW, you quoted the following article from 2015. The 64 million surplus apartments number is outdated.
https://truthout.org/articles/china-s-communist-capitalist-e...
For China's ghost cities: Each empty apartment has a unique address and an owner so I guess that counts as a byzantine form of currency too. Maybe the BOC could print "empty apartment" bank notes where it maintains the empty apartment on your behalf but you can trade the note in for the deed to the apartment.
What about stock shares.... eh let's not go there :)
That is a brilliant reference and I think good way to think about modern financial vehicles - namely that our species is still into necromancing our totems in order to give a dead object anthropomorphic spirits
What silly creatures we are
Having an object to direct the trust at, such that strangers can both agree is useful.
> If each vacant home is occupied by a household of 2.76 [2], there are about 510 million vacant homes in China.
Considering the literal rows of tents that pop up outside my apartment because so many people can't afford the fucking astronomically high rents here in America anymore, that sounds like a FANTASTIC "problem" to have!
Most of vacant units / under occupied development areas are where people fine with living, even speculative RE purchases has to factor in location to maximize returns. Hence empty units largely located just outside of ring roads of "city" where many people live, but rent between "decent" area and "prime" urban area is huge = many owners speculating on equity growth don't even bother to rent since ROI of rentals in these areas are very bad.
I didn’t compare Italy and Germany with Japan either.
Excess PRC square footage in housing inventory is enough for 100-150m people. About 10 years of urbanization headroom. PRC continuing trend to urbanize from 65%->80/80% still has to resettle 200-300m to urban areas. This is without accounting for deprecated housing stock. Yes reality of speculation and (mis)allocation is much messier, but PRC is still 100-150m short on urban housing, they just also have a very wasteful 100-150m decade long housing runway.
For reference 80% urbanized US is short on ~6M homes, that's 2% relative to population. PRC gunning for 80% urbanization = PRC is net short 7-10%. Realistically much higher since a lot of people in rural stuck in very shitty housing stock. I mean that's their choice, and economics of relocating people who can't afford new homes is going to be... interesting. But part of urbanization goal is to move 100s in prexisting shitty tier5 homes into modern housing. Especially elderly whose going to be in <2 people households.
Edit: Here's an article about it that was posted last year https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36952874
They do now, but a lot of these old houses that nobody wants predate them. The big earthquake-resistant building codes came in 1981 and 2000.
Nobody would think anything of buying a house from 1980 in the west, but in Japan I would never do it (a large factor in the death toll of the Noto quake earlier this year was the high level of pre-1981 housing stock in the area).
As newer, safer, houses start filling up the used housing stock I can totally see attitudes slowly changing.
Houses with more intrinsic value -- for example, traditional timber-frame homes, or machiya in Kyoto -- have more interest for remodelers, even today.
I can imagine this is significant because japanese cities are probably very pleasant to live in, since they are safe and people are very self controlled.
(cities in the US for instance, generally have city benefits, but on balance require street smarts and caution)
In many US cities the crime rate is below what it is in rural areas.
As a counterpoint: being non-Japanese and attracting the attention of the police goes very poorly. Some Japanese go out of their way to try and start trouble with foreigners, then claim you assaulted them, and bam, you're into a criminal justice system with a 99% conviction rate and some of the worst prison conditions in the developed world.
Here’s an example: https://www.sanfranciscopolice.org/sites/default/files/2024-...
https://www.ncjrs.gov/ovc_archives/ncvrw/2017/images/en_artw...
https://ovc.ojp.gov/sites/g/files/xyckuh226/files/ncvrw2018/...
https://usali.org/comparative-views-of-japanese-criminal-jus...
This doesn't mean Japan's criminal justice system is good, it just means that its problems are overstated, and comparable to the problems the US is also dealing with. A difference in how statistics are calculated exaggerates the real differences between the two systems.
So it's not like you can just be thrown in a cell for weeks without any explanation or any rights. And while you don't have to have done anything wrong, there at least needs to be evidence that you've done something wrong. Factually-innocent people in the US who find themselves facing charges with evidence against them often end up pressured to accept a plea bargain, even if they know they're innocent. It's a failure mode that both systems have, although they handle them differently.
I'm not saying it's fair, of course. A factually-innocent foreigner who doesn't understand the language, the legal system, or the situation they're in could easily slip up and end up confessing to a crime they didn't commit, or making any number of similar mistakes.
https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20240417/p2a/00m/0na/00...
It's certainly a travesty that this happened to that woman.
So if you're going to sell your house you may get a more eager buyer if you knock it down first.
He said it's super hard to rent a house as a foreigner there, he lucked out and found a landlord that knew him from youtube and leased an absolutely beautiful townhouse for $1800 that would be well into the $5ks in my city. Glass garage doors, just decked out.
Fruit though, he loves to show how expensive the fruit is and it's shockingly expensive. Not exact here but we're talking like $10-20 for a single melon.
I'm not sure what city he's in, he seems to be IN a city and is in Tokyo a lot but I can't remember if he's IN tokyo. So maybe it's not Tokyo expensive but I'd always assumed Japan was incredibly expensive to live in, in general.
If anyones interested he has a bunch of videos where he talks about the move, house tour, etc. He's one of my favorite youtubers and I'm not even that into the drift stuff.
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2024/04/26/japan/society/h...
"The number of homeless people in Japan fell 8.0% as of January from a year earlier to 2,820, the lowest level since data began in 2003, the health ministry said in a survey report Friday."
Large cities will also be impacted, with a delay, as this is where most young and educated people choose to live, for obvious reasons.
In my opinion the housing market is the real demographic dampener, more than anything else, and it means that the long term trend for both demography and housing should be a slow oscillation around equilibrium.
I think it's simply a communication and logistics problem to match people from other areas to empty homes. If anything, Japan and such should explicitly incentivize and encourage migration to declining areas to ensure their own tax base.
e.g. In 2001 a worker may have moved to Cincinnati or St Louis because they got a job there. In 2024 a remote worker might move to NYC or Austin because they want to live in those places.
As I say, we’ll have to see how it plays out. Obviously fully remote has become a decidedly minority mode (especially to the degree people worry their next job won’t be fully remote) contrary to what some expected during the pandemic.
That's a mid-to-late-20th century North American pattern based on zoning restrictions, mortgage policies, highway development policies, and racial conflict. There is nothing inevitable about it, and Japan has had a completely different experience.
I think it's more likely than not that young professionals with money will want to live in places where they can easily access a large variety of quality products, services, and entertainment. Places where they can meet and spend time with other young professionals. Once they get families they'll tend to prioritize places with good schools, childcare, and support systems (their parents, doctors, etc) but I don't think being able to work from home is going to make people want to live too far from cities while they are young.
Many cities that are themselves expensive have suburbs and exurbs, some of which are themselves very expensive, but others of which are much more moderate and often have decent school systems and may be within an hour for medical care or an evening’s entertainment.
What they will get rewarded for though is getting (somebody) pregnant. Then the parents of both the father and mother will rush in to help them get real estate and to escape the dead end of working.
In short, they can't afford to move out from the city until pregnancy opens the doors for them.
Reality is getting screamed at by a toddler while you single-handedly build a depression era shack in desert wasteland for 40k, while simultaneously working full time and somehow caring for your kids too. Spend your time tearing your hair out, essentially working 3 full-time jobs while paying for daycare, rent, and construction materials so despite all this work your financials go into a black hole.
My parents did send me a $100 Lowes gift card, so there is that. At least now I can do ghetto job of pretty much any building trade.
It's mostly that having a kid lites the fire under your ass, not so much others are helping because they usually don't.
Is this commonplace? This doesn't match my experience, not in tech but in finance departments.
This does not sound connected to any reality I have seen, and seems facially ageist.
Successful people wanting to live in cities at least until they retire has been the pattern for centuries. The postwar US weirdness of zoning and "white flight" is the aberration, this is a return to the norm.
As simple as it is, I never though of it this way. It makes more sense to me than the commonly accepted explanation that kids are a liability in modern life. Thanks!
Someone with more knowledge than me could probably explain this better though.
Local municipalities are going to be very skeptical of anyone without residence buying such a home.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_castles_and_fortresses...
https://www.thelocal.ch/20220104/gambarogno-the-latest-swiss...
It floundered, because it wasn't just practical to do anything in such a remote place.
I know someone who tried to pull that stunt and bought a house in Detroit for just a few thousand dollars. It really did not take the city all that long (less than a year for sure) to decide he was not going to fix the place up. They made him an offer he could not refuse -- give it to the Detroit Land Bank for nothin, or go to court.
Of course that drastically over-simplifies the realities of moving to Japan and won't work for everyone but just a thought process I go through every so often.
For the record I don't live in Japan and have no viable immigration basis. Nor do I have a clue if they have a "no foreign property ownership" law like the one Canada just got. I do speak rudimentary Japanese and could probably bumble my way through the paperwork.
The thing I found strangest is that some of the houses featured were in beach towns not that far from Tokyo. If I were a middle-class Japanese family, I’d be buying one of these as a weekender.
You can buy it, but what would you do with it? There are plenty of cheap hotels in those towns. It's like buying a boat - it seems like such a fun idea, but ultimately it becomes just another thing tying you down while you pay to maintain it.
Taking a toddler to a hotel is a major PITA; taking a toddler to a holiday home, while I wouldn't call it "easy", is considerably less stressful.
Technically, I am resident in Tokyo but own and live in a house in Nagano. It had been empty for 6 years, but not abandoned when I bought it 2 years ago. Here is what I know:
- There is no residence requirement to own property in Japan. You can be domiciled anywhere.
- Even for a government-sold Akiya, you will pay some reasonable fees to realtor and scrivener.
- You probably will not be able to get a loan if domiciled overseas.
- Legal is not particularly difficult (compared to other countries). I have only done it in person, and cannot imagine doing it remotely.
- There is no option to do legal in English. You will need a Japanese speaker. Or at least let them explain the documents at your level. They will do so sincerely.
- If your akiya includes farmland, you will need to demonstrate a plan to farm it. If the plan is not accepted by local govt, or you don't fulfill the plan, the sale may be voided.
- It is generally not a scammy environment. ymmv.
Anyone thinking to buy property in Iida, Nagano please look me up.
It also has a criminal justice system that convicts everyone who ends up in court (being a Japanese judge seems to be easy street redefined) and prison conditions are terrible.
Oh, and if you're black, expect to be constantly followed/stopped by plainclothes police who will demand your identity card, while not identifying themselves.
Japanese criminal judges have a high conviction rate because of two reasons:
- Japanese prosecutors are extremely selective about what charges they bring forward and often drop cases for lack of evidence.
- Falsely accused Japanese will often confess to a crime they didn't commit due to social pressure.
To be clear, the latter is an active social problem. But it's not the one most westerners think of when they think of the Japanese criminal justice system.
I can't speak to the Black experience in Japan, so I'll keep my mouth shut about that.
[0] Keep in mind this character was last seen fighting a bunch of super-vampires alongside a bunch of literal Nazis during WWII
Given I'm Japanese, it would be much harder for immigrants...
You would also need to pay real-estate taxes, as well as any income/capital gains taxes you made on the property. Japan also has "neighborhood associations" [1] that coordinate/provide services like trash pickup and snow removal that you probably should join, although I'm not sure if its's legally required.
There are real-estate agents in Japan that specialize in working with international clients. Presumably they could streamline a lot of the process for you. There are also property management companies that could provide a lot of different services, such as basic maintanence, finding renters, etc. As someone who would be absent from Japan for long stretches of time, I think realistically you would need to pay for some of these services (unless you know someone who could look after the property for you).
[1] https://mailmate.jp/blog/neighborhood-associations-japan
A hell of an incentive to build or sell your land to someone who will build. We've struggled with land speculation in the US for longer than we've been a country despite an obvious solution being available to fix this. We really could benefit from taxing land value alone, regardless of the value of any structures on top of it.
Incentives are a blunt instrument. They necessarily push in the wrong direction sometimes, because they’re dumb rules. Beware one-size-fits-all solutions.
Land that is zoned for some form of residential, commercial or industrial use but doesn't have building is considered to be vacant.
The US doesn't have a shortage of land. However, vacant properties (residential or commercial buildings with no tenants) are indeed a problem in densely populated regions.
For some areas, it's because the city population shrunk and nobody wants to live there (Detroit comes to mind as a semi-recent example) but for others it is speculative investors who don't want to be a landlord and are just betting the price will go up.
There's plenty of reasons to suggest that isn't the best purpose the land could serve, of course, but "vacant" wouldn't apply.
(As bad for the environment as this would be CO2 emission-wise, I have actually thought about doing this)
I personally would not recommend buying an abandoned home unless you are really looking for a lot of new worries in your life, but still fun to look at.
Also, there's Cleveland.
Don't own property in Japan.
Maybe don't buy property as an investment, but if someone actually wants to live in Japan, finds a nice bit of land, and can affordably build a nice place for themself in a small town or countryside I doubt the declining population is going to make them think twice.
Im going that extra bit here. You dont want to own even in non-investment purposes.
You propose some solitude life, but that will be a rather bad decision as people will tend to move into the cities because of affordable housing.
Also while Japan's population declines overall, it also concentrates in a few metropolises, so rural land becomes cheaper, but also ever less attractive. Same with smaller cities. Japan is not going to have "ridiculously affordable housing for the foreseeable future", because the cheap housing is not where people are looking for housing. It's like saying that the US has affordable housing because NM has cheap land.
The places a friend of mine who lives in Tokyo has rented over the years have all been considerably nicer and sometimes larger than what one would get for the same price in SF, LA, or NY while still being in walking distance of essentials and a short train ride away from any part of the city.
I think South Dakota might be a better comparison.
A few years ago I noticed that Universal Studios in Japan, and nearby hotels, are cheaper than in LA. (I want to go to Super Mario World.)
Unfortunately, flying my family to Japan is super-expensive.
Anyway, this article makes me want to stay in a converted house in Japan.
It's called inflation, and the vast majority of Americans are painfully aware of it.
World demographics will likely get even worse if war spreads globally, including in Asia.
However, Japan remains very resistant to accepting permanent immigration.