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Just wanted to chime in and say that I think you are both right. I haven't thought of a way to square this circle yet. I find this issue to be the fundamental concern around generative AI. Of course the Courts could always end up saying its fair game and at that point, I could see OpenAI no longer paying. And then content producers are more likely to gate content in a myriad of ways and the cat and mouse game will continue. I could also see the US say scraping is allowed and EU saying otherwise.

It seems to me that half the closures happen after some wealthy ass hole that seems to hate journalists buys a publication then runs it into the ground.

publishing indstury maybe be in trouble, but publishing itself is not.

content creators are going direct to consumer with their content, and there is endless opportunity for actual content creators to thrive without publishing houses as middlemen