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China don't "ban apps unless company sells it"

"non-adversary", implying that China is your enemy, this doesn't make sense lol, pure propaganda at this point

China tells ahead of time what the company is allowed or not allowed to do, then grant access if they comply

TikTok comply with the US law, otherwise it would have already been banned

The US is spreading some FUD to push some other laws and to prevent China from being leader in the US, they did the same with EU companies in the past, most notably French ones

Guess who is working on "we don't have WeeChat in the west, let's copy WeeChat for our everything app"

Yeah, you guessed right

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aDPHpPGxD0

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Uh, China has banned numerous US-based apps because they violate its censorship policies: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_websites_blocked_in_ma...

That includes Twitter/X, so not sure what your YouTube video has to do with anything.

Read again, specially this line: "China tells ahead of time what the company is allowed or not allowed to do, then grant access if they comply"

Are you implying that US companies should be above foreign local laws?

I did read that line: the result of a company not complying is them being banned. Those apps are not accessible anywhere in China.

If you agree that companies should not be above the laws of the country they operate in, doesn't the same apply to ByteDance?

You ask a question that's already answered in my post, what is your goal?

"TikTok comply with the US law, otherwise it would have already been banned"

TikTok has failed for years to comply with US laws about not sharing data with the CCP, despite numerous warnings to do so and even a forced partnership with Oracle.

This is the final result of their noncompliance with local laws. Just as Twitter/X's noncompliance with censorship laws has resulted in their ban in China.

Yet again, false claim, otherwise the US wouldn't need yet another series of laws in order to "enforce the law"

What's funny is the Oracle partnership demonstrated to the world that CIA/NSA had access to these servers for years, "Operation Decoy Tables", so i would say, the current events are quite beneficial for both parties, China and Rest of the World, as for the US, it's sad that all eyes are on TikTok, but that's what you get for only having 2 choice of the same cake for November (hey, that's the month of my birthday, the 5th too!)

> otherwise the US wouldn't need yet another series of laws in order to "enforce the law"

Since we passed a law about murder and injury once we never need worry about safety again! Silly lawmakers worrying about lead paint and checks notes creating the FDA.

You seem to have a misunderstanding of how US law works. Not all laws have legislatively-defined consequences for violating them. For example, consider laws against terrorism: even though terrorism is illegal, sanctioning individuals for terrorism can be done either legislatively or executively and occurs on a case-by-case basis.

Similarly here to ByteDance, which has violated American laws for years and is now experiencing the consequences of its non-compliance.

So actually, my claim is true; your understanding of US law is what is lacking here.

Your claim is false, and your evidence is nowhere to be found

Do you think that continually asserting my wrongness makes me wrong?

I encourage you to understand this issue more deeply. But if it is evidence you lack, here it is:

A timeline of TikTok's history of reported security flaws, continual failures to fix them, and why it is currently in this situation: https://apnews.com/article/tiktok-timeline-ban-biden-india-d...

A list of countries that have already banned TikTok and their reasons for doing so: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/these-countries-have-alre...

Of course, that list does not include China itself, which also has TikTok banned locally.

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