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Interesting, I guess it depends on where you are, because that's not how it seems to 'work' over here (Netherlands/Germany). Plenty of people buy vegan and vegetarian substitutes just to eat less meat. Both for health and environmental reasons.

Over the past few years there has been a big increase in plant-based products I can buy from the supermarkets. A decade back they had two types of soy-milk, now there is 30-40 types/brands/flavours of plant-based 'milks'. Even the big dairy companies are now actively marketing plant-based dairy.

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I eat lots of plant based products, but I avoid all imitation products (products that try to copy the characteristics of animal products) because they have always tasted or felt worse to me.

For example, bean or quinoa or whatever plant based burger patties are great (and cheaper), beyond or impossible imitation meat patties are awful (and expensive). Same with eggs and cheese.

For us it depends on the day. Sometimes we want homemade bean burgers, store-made quinoa or we go out for a fancy impossible burger. There's room for everything, maybe just not as a unicorn business for a single product.

Just to give you some perspective, there are people here who modify their diesel trucks with the sole purpose of producing MORE pollutants, not power or speed, just contamination.

> Plenty of people buy vegan and vegetarian substitutes just to eat less meat

Ok, but this is "vegan cheese" we're talking about, not meat. Cheese is already 100% meat

Most people don't object to dairy products from cows, that's something that really only vegans care enough about to change their diets

A lot of people are lactose intolerant.

Lots of cheese has little or no lactose

Much easier to just eat vegan cheese and not have to think about this stuff.

Most people don’t like to think about it, but eating cheese is just one step removed from eating meat in terms of animal cruelty. Many calves have to die in order to keep the milk cows lactating.

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