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Comment by arthurcolle | Hacker News Reader

yeah this happened to me yesterday! i can still get in with passkey on my iphone but im dreading needing to go to apple store and tell them that i have been progressively getting logged out of my normal couple apple devices

super weird, somethings going on

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I’m betting they’ve turned on some AI “features” for detecting fraud and it’s not working out as well as promised.

similar seems to be happening at stripe, their LinkedIn was full of accounts locking out last week.

This is exactly what CloudFlare and Google have been doing for a while. i meet so many tech illiterate people who "can't log in to the internet" because of some discouraging CAPTCHA or because Gmail decided that even though they knew their passwords, a phone number they haven't used in 2 years (and has probably been reallocated to someone else) is a better proof of identity.

It's a shame it's even legal to discriminate people's browsers based on shady stats and not actual abuse.

Because HN loves to complain about this, I get to repeat it as always. Enroll a real 2fa (totp, security key, passkey) on your account and you will not face any of these issues. There's a reason they do this for insecure accounts and an easy way to avoid it.

I've logged into years-dormant Gmail accounts, from small towns in Mexico on a $2usd Mexican SIM and google has not even batted an eye.

I had the same thing this morning. Unlock and password reset via another device worked through.

Same here in AU, this happened to me about 8 hours ago. Standard reset procedure worked.

Now when trying to configure a Recovery Key from my 2021 iPad Pro I’m told that I can’t do that from ‘this new device’ of mine. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

And when I try it from my iPhone I have to wait an hour because of Stolen Device Protection. Apparently I’m not at a ‘familiar location’. I’m at home. I work from home. This phone is in this house for 99% of the time.

Not amazing is it.

Check if you have location services -> system services -> significant locations On. If it's disabled then effectively you have no "familiar location" as far as iOS is concerned

Yeah it’s on… always been on. Thanks for the tip tho’.

I loved Stolen Device Protection when I first heard about it. And now I've wasted hours of my life dealing with it as part of the "Daily Lockout".

And tech companies again demonstrate that they are "all about the user" by providing no clarity, acknowledgement, or empathy around the issue. It's depressing.

Perhaps this is real talent in tech: to make things seem rather than be, and to build ways to avoid service and accountability unless it leads to max profit.

I shouldn't be surprised each time this happens, but optimistically I still am.

Going to an apple store might be an option too with ID, etc.

My other device is locked out too unfortunately.

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