Diet May Be More Important Than Exercise for Long-Term Weight Control (2021)
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ADDENDUM: this is because a drop in carb consumption causes a decline in glycogen, and a corresponding decline in water
(I say this as someone who rides a lot, somewhat competitively, and has directly observed that weight loss comes in the kitchen, not from riding. And if you try to cut back on nutrition during the ride, you'll feel so awful you won't be able to ride.)
But I must admit that you could be right. Maybe it was just age or something. I guess I'll find out when I make my glorious return.
Since then I've backed off riding a bit, and am definitely not as aware of what I eat (snacking because of stress, mostly) and am up maybe 5-10 pounds from that time.
Then I got serious about rehab and corrected the issues in my leg, started cycling again, and I was back to my desired weight in about 6 weeks, and without putting any particular effort into controlling my calories. Everyone else in my immediate family is obese and sedentary excepting my uncle who is also a cyclist.
Someone in r/cycling the other week tried to suggest that "abs are made in the kitchen" and they were laughed out of the thread. In most forums, however, exercise is a 4 letter word, and Dr. pontzer is very popular.
After following the subject for years, I've come to believe rising sedentarism is the primary culprit in the obesity epidemic.
Exercise also has benefits beyond weight management, so you should also probably find something that works for you.
It might not be easy to do, but it's not really much more complicated than that.
"Might not be easy to do" is an extreme underestimate of the difficulty in fixing this by willpower alone. It is very hard to do for the long term. I was a chronic yo-yo dieter that did it over and over again ... until I couldn't. After enough of that my body just demanded to eat, and I could no more refuse than I could refuse to breathe. I became a bulimic binge eater.
If I could have just said no, forever, I assume you're right and it would have worked, uncomplicated. But having lost 100+ pounds multiple times, dude, I tried really fucking hard, and failed. Nothing worked until I gave my body the nutrition that it was trying to get by binging on junk. Then it became easy to do with my hormones no longer working against me.
Diets fail 95% of the time. Calories in/calories out isn't wrong, obviously. From a physics perspective it is clearly less effort to sit still and not eat than it is to go do physical work of some sort. Once you introduce human psychology into the equation, however, everything changes.
Or maybe there are calories that do not turn into get but muscle? You still getting weight, but good weight?
Of course, if you need x calories and get less that x, your body will need to burn something. Maybe brain or muscles and not fat?
Again, I do not know much about that but it just may be more complicated than just cals in vs cals out.
Understatement of the year. Which is why people who preach CICO and “just eat less” can set off those folks who have been down the diet rabbit holes.
I can only relay my own experience. It’s not CICO that is important, that’s just a formula. The important thing is satiety. You need to get to a point of eating less by activating your satiety center with less calories than before. If you are constantly hungry on any diet trying to eat less calories, you will ultimately fail without an external factor preventing you from eating more.
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/tv/story/2024-03-...
Only thing I've ever found that works is fasting. Especially since my base metabolic rate has been about 1500 calories after hitting 35 years old.
I wonder if people swapped their foods with non-sugar/non-oiled foods, and they ate like nature would direct them, if they'd actually become obese.
Can a sane person eat enough carrots to become overweight?
The best way to lose weight is to reduce insulin levels. This involves changing what you eat and when you eat.
You even basically had to use carrot extract to make it unhealthy.
I'm not sure I'm okay with blenders/food processors for vegetables/fruits as they artifically make it too easy to consume food. (liquid calories)
Our food is just way too palatable right now. Even the fruits and veggies have been bred to be full of sugar.
That doesn't mean that your point about them not being satisfying is wrong, but you probably aren't going to persuade people with ludicrous relative comparisons.
People act like they can just use their mind to overpower their endocrinology. But you can't. You have to focus on low insulin index foods. Carrots are okay for this, but not great. They have a medium insulin index on the order of corn or milk.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3127522/#:~:tex...
In general, weight is not really a great measure. You can lose weight by losing muscle. I "measure" my own body by looking at it in a mirror.
How so?
Of course if you're exercising regularly and strenuously, there are some athletic metrics: how long you can run until exhaustion, how much weight you can lift, etc.
Are you sure it wasn't because you were younger then? Despite not doing any exercise other than walking I could eat any amount of anything until I was over forty when the weight started creeping up.
Yes, because my weight—or visible body fat, anyway—has fluctuated over my entire life, including then and now, depending on how much exercise I get.
True.
> Low intensity cardio like walking doesn't have the same effect.
That's short-term thinking though. Long term, higher intensity cardio builds muscle and endurance. The more strenuously you exercise now, the more strenuously you'll be able to exercise in the future. If you're not pushing yourself, then you'll remain stuck at the lower level forever. The extra calories now are an investment in your future body.
Where? It's understood in the fitness community that you have to load a muscle within a particular range in order to build muscle. It won't happen through highly repetitive motions, such as the ones that occur in cardio (running, cycling, etc). The load isn't great enough.
I believe cardio benefits the heart. But nobody does cardio to build muscle.
The heart is a muscle. ;-)
Cardio certainly isn't the best way to bulk up muscles; ideally you want to combine cardio with strength training. Nonetheless, it does build some muscle, and there are various ways to add resistance to cardio, such as with machines, carrying weights, running uphill, etc. In any case, cardio does increase your endurance.
The thing to bear in mind is, most discussions of diet are in the context of weight loss - and the kind of exercise regime that allows eating loads of food is generally only accessible to people who are already extremely fit.
If you're running a 4 hour marathon every weekend, you can pretty much eat whatever you like and not gain weight.
But if my 240 lbs buddy wants to lose weight? Dude would be doing well to jog 5km. He's not going to be running any marathons.
So the fact he could maintain his current diet if he burned an extra 2500 calories every weekend doesn't help him, because he can't.
Of course. And I'm not suggesting that people ignore or go crazy with their diet. I'm personally very strict with mine, though I'm not counting calories at all but rather trying to mimimize salt, saturated fat, and added sugar (which perhaps naturally restricts calories somewhat, since the highest calorie foods also tend to have high salt, saturated fat, and added sugar).
> But if my 240 lbs buddy wants to lose weight? Dude would be doing well to jog 5km. He's not going to be running any marathons.
Of course. What I would say is that in fact it's a (metaphorical) marathon, not a sprint. The goal, I think, should be health, not simply weight loss, which is only one aspect of health. You shouldn't be afraid to exercise strenuously just because it might make you a little hungrier. In the long run, you want to control your diet and also get your body into shape, which requires investment in exercise.
My dispute is with the idea that "we burn calories within a very narrow range: nearly 3,000 calories per day, no matter our activity level." That's simpy not true in general. It may be true for a relatively sedentary activity level, but it's not true for people who are at higher levels of vigorous activity, and I don't mean just elite athletes. A normal person can build up to becoming quite physically active if they commit to it long term. Of course nobody can just run a marathon right away, but almost anybody could run a marathon eventually. The author was examining people who walk all day, but I don't think that's a good baseline for measurement of "maximum" physical activity, because walking is generally not very strenous.
Edit: Please disregard, my reading comprehension skills failed me today. I read 6 hours a day but it was actually 6 hours a week
The OP said 6 hours a week (1 a day), not 6 a day.
6 hours of running is 4000-8000 calories / 1-2lb week depending on body size. That's your basic 1-2% of BW deficit for weight loss. Except it's a much harder behaviour change to adopt.
No amount of gym time can counteract a terrible diet. But you can easily lose weight by simply eating fewer calories than your body burns day to day.
You know, if you can go beyond the headline.
Last year I was running for 60 minutes per day + weight lifting. I was likely spending 3500-4000 calories per day. On long runs it could be 5000 calories per day.
I lost a ton of weight, and I was feeding myself too. Once I lost the weight, I have basically kept it off.
I'm not sure what the point of these bad scientific studies are when you can look out your window and see clear contradictions everywhere.
As an analogue - When water evaporates, it expands 1600 times larger in volume to become steam.
That's a LOT of breathing.
Good to see the meme being validated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1cqNDDG4aA&pp=ygUdcGxhbnRzI...
I would have thought it was totally crazy. In the space of a year:
* one friend went carnivore, and their apple devices stopped recognizing them since they had lost so much weight
* another friend went carnivore who was high normal bmi, and is now ideal bmi, off of blood pressure meds, no longer has fibromyalgia, no longer has arthritis pain, and has had so many other medical issues resolve and much better quality of life. a walking, talking ad for that video.
* I went carnivore and feel 10 years younger
It's not an easy diet to transition to, but is easy to maintain. If you're interested, here's advice on how to start: