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> Forcing libraries to repurchase their entire collection every year should be illegal.

We could have public libraries be entirely outside the copyright system. I doubt it’d have a material effect on production of new books.

If as a society we have a problem that our libraries are too popular, then that’s probably a good thing.

> I would also settle for a loophole that would allow the library to OCR a physical copy they own and then own the resulting digital copy.

Something about this reminds me of that company with the thousands of tiny antennas that got sued to oblivion.

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> We could have public libraries be entirely outside the copyright system.

As I mentioned in a sibling comment, extending the right of first sale to digital goods would benefit everyone without requiring a special exception for libraries.

> We could have public libraries be entirely outside the copyright system.

Where is the line between this and something along the lines of libgen? I’ve been using distributed libraries for years and haven’t paid for a textbook once…

The much, much simpler, cheaper, and broad solution is to reduce copyright length to 10 years. Or even 15 years.

And while we are at it, make it so if a work goes out of "print", then the copyright expires.

> much, much simpler, cheaper, and broad

you left out "politically doable."

There's a good reason why copyright law is as f&cked up as it is: it's the major holders of copyrights now.

It might be do-able now. Today, distributors of content (Google, Facebook, etc) have more political clout than copyright holders.

Go for, say 25 years with no formalities. For 25 to 50 years, you have to file a copyright registration with the Library of Congress and pay a modest fee. For 50 to 100 years, you have to pay a huge fee (millions), just so a few classic movies people will still pay for can have coverage, and some famous music that still generates revenue can be covered.

To be honest, I'm not even sure that long makes sense.

The point of copyright is to encourage creation of content. But do we actually have a problem with too little content being created these days? If anything, it's the opposite - there's an overabundance of content, to the point where the actual problem is finding the real gems in this firehose (and this does not correlate with price or popularity at all).

Maybe it's time to just drop the whole thing altogether. It does mean that the only people who will write books then will be the ones who either enjoy it as a hobby, or feel very strongly about saying something. And I'm pretty sure that this will still result in more content being created than there is actual demand for.

> I doubt it’d have a material effect on production of new books.

The fact I can just wait to checkout a lot of books I'd otherwise buy digitally massively cuts back on me buying books in the end. I practically don't even subscribe to magazines anymore because it's so easy and free to just check them out on Libby. I just went on a long road trip and had tons of hours of audiobooks digitally delivered for zero cost up front.

Obviously I'm just N = 2 (my wife is the same) but I imagine some decent chunk of potential book sales are similar.

In addition to the not-buying part, there's also (A) where do I find room to store this and (B) who can I lend this to when I'm not using it and (C) how do I get it back when they're done, etc.

Thankfully, the local library is a traditional American institution ready and capable of doing that for myself and others in my community.

> zero cost up front

I guess it depends on when you pay your property tax bill (or when your landlord does). I know I pay over $200/year in taxes to the local library, so my family tries to make heavy use of the place.

> We could have public libraries be entirely outside the copyright system. I doubt it’d have a material effect on production of new books.

I really wish this could be the case, but I strongly doubt, which ever country we are in, the politicians we voted in will be on our sides.

> We could have public libraries be entirely outside the copyright system.

The Bibliothèque Nationale de France has, I think, such an exemption.

Any reading on this phenomenon with Bibliothèque Nationale de France in English? Sounds like old school copyleft

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