Tesla cuts price of Full Self-Driving software by a third to $8k
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https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/21/23315270/tesla-full-self-...
They should demand their money back.
My understanding is that most regulations are generally related to essential commodities like groceries and used during emergency times.
Do they have a case? I don't know, I haven't looked at the marketting and sales materials, but the whole calling it full self-driving while also writing letters to the DMV indicating it's not self-driving at all strikes of deceptive practices to me. But maybe it's spelled out in the materials?
That's entirely unrelated to "the people who paid $15,000". It would be applicable even if there wasn't a price cut.
> The FSD price will continue to rise as the software gets closer to full self-driving capability with regulatory approval. It that point, the value of FSD is probably somewhere in excess of $100,000.
Then, eh, they might have a case.
If you buy something and it goes on sale before it’s delivered almost every retailer will price match the difference if you ask.
And no, I was not expecting a self-driving car or anything even close to that. I just wanted the excellent lane assist and adaptive cruise control in my previous Kira Niro upgraded so that it would do traffic jams too. Tesla can't even get the basic lane assist right - the one you have on all the time and keeps your car gently and consistently centered on your lane. ACC is ok but prone to sudden and scary breaking and continuously harassing the driver. Then there's all those alarms and buzzes that scare my kids all the time. They even implemented a "Joe mode" [1] so that it reduces the overall alarm volumes for the kids in the back seat, but it's insufficient for reducing the amount of attention the car requires to just drive semi-autonomous.
[1] https://www.slashgear.com/1222581/joe-mode-a-must-know-setti...
The charging network and vehicle platform are exceptional. The “self driving” is driver assist and only an assist.
Agreed, and I'd add that while I agree the underlying platform and charging network are exceptional, the finished vehicles themselves are often lacking in polish and are in no way what I would call exceptional. Panel gaps, cheap feeling materials, lack of carplay/android auto (seriously?), lack of a directional signal stalk on recent models, very few physical buttons, all controls and displays in the center of the dash out of the direct line of sight of the driver (at least on the 3/Y/truck), and wildly under-delivering on performance/range/price of the cybertruck vs. the announced specs are all examples I've seen.
I'm betting that open access to NACS and the supercharger network by other brands' EVs is going to be detrimental to Tesla in the long term, because that's one of their biggest advantages at the moment.
Other brands have to pay for access, and cannot sell EVs without access to the network due to consumer range anxiety. Tesla either gets unit margin, or a cut of legacy auto EV sales for network access.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/29/tesla-to-earn-billions-from-...
I wonder if this means that Tesla will eventually become primarily an EV charging platform company. Despite being the owner of an EV for the last 8 years who will likely never buy an ICE car again, I can't see myself ever buying a Tesla vehicle in their current form. But I'm very interested in non-Tesla EVs with access to Tesla chargers.
It went from $15->$12->$8k in the span of a year. Seems like it’s doing the opposite of getting better.
40k people a year die on American roads and this technology seems like the leading candidate to reduce that dramatically. I highly recommend it.
Cruise doesn’t report disengagements that I can tell, but Waymo is at ~17k per disengagement, WeRide is at ~21k and Zoox is 177k.
Nissan is at 284, and Apple is at 142, so that would put Tesla about there in performance. That’s a couple of orders of magnitude off from the other players.