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What is antisemitic about suggesting that there should be conversation about how AI is used in warfare?

the GP is equivocating IBM selling tech to Nazis with tech companies selling tech to Israel

Yes. It's the same thing.

Well, equating IBM selling to Nazis with Google (or whoever) selling to Israel could be considered antisemitic. For some reason, people love to bring up Nazi comparisons with Israel, but not with other nations. I wonder why that is. Even people who hate the idea of Google doing business with the US government haven't(as far as I've read) used the comparison of IBM selling to Nazi Germany.

What do you imagine the outcome of the conversation would be?

You are giving too much credit to the "people". The "people" are stupid and parrot the garbage they consume. The organizations/nations that push that agenda are more interesting to look at and investigate.

The "people" are finally questioning the lies they've been told for decades about what's going on in the Middle East.

"Rise up sheeple, you have been lied to!". Reverse Flynn effect in all its glory.

I mean, FWIW, yes: internally and externally, people compared Project Maven to IBM doing business with Nazi Germany. There was significant concern among engineers that Google was going down a path of repeating the mistakes of a prior generation.

> equating IBM selling to Nazis with Google (or whoever) selling to Israel could be considered antisemitic

What crazy definition of antisemitism are you holding? Does it equate a religion with genocides? Because that's the equivalence this phrase pushes.

If someone never explicitly said anything bad about black people, but always lamented the crime rate in America when black people came up, I would guess that the person is racist.

How many genocides is Google supporting that those people failed to protest against?

I'm not seeing any evidence that Google is supporting any genocides.

They are supporting at least 1.

But you claimed the people protesting it stand in quiet support of the others. I know of no others.

No, I don't think they are.

And I claimed that hyperbolic Nazi comparisons are far more common when dealing with Israel than with any other nation. That is not saying that people don't protest other nations.

> For some reason, people love to bring up Nazi comparisons with Israel, but not with other nations.

Nazi comparisons have been made about every enemy the US has had for the last 80 years. Why would you say otherwise?

Anyway, the comparison most often made is to apartheid South Africa, including officially, by South Africa.

Motte and Bailey.

No one is quelling the conversation. You are omitting details in your comment to get readers to agree with a false premise. Workers faced consequences for illegally occupying their boss’s office and spending 10 hours screaming and refusing the leave after being trespassed.

Edit: the irony of ironies is you taking this stance, because this submission is now flagged, whereas the AI targeting submission was discussed on hn.

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