SeaMonkey All-in-One Internet Application Suite
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One of the main things I miss is the LCARSTrek theme by KaiRo. Unlike any other LCARS browser theme, I found it to be usable on a day to day basis. Sadly it isn't available for Firefox.
> The HTML editor not so much, and didn't appear to get much attention.
I found it useful. Firefox's inbuilt HTML editor features are worse, they don't have floating table editing. Nowadays I use Thunderbird to write HTML whenever I don't want to do it by hand, almost the same thing.
I highly recommend SeaMonkey's HTML editor to anyone who would otherwise be tempted to write HTML in MS Word.
It doesn't have a ton of features, but the webpage will be readable both in rendered and in source form.
I used to use it heavily when creating MS Help .chm (Compiled HtMl) helpfiles.
Hosting on a baked in service will be easier, this tool is meant to be used for other purposes.
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Document/de...
You can enable it in the javascript console (document.designMode = 'on') , but the lack of an editing UI makes it less useful.
The onramp to web page creation – and javascript programming in the browser for that matter[1] – is tantalizingly close. I wish it were a bit more discoverable in mainstream browsers.
I just wish there was a Mac ARM build…
EDIT: woops nope it is Yahoo now XD
last good ceo was bartz, but she lost for carl Icahn who wanted to destroy Yahoo so his shares on MS and google ad business would go up. then he managed to get mayer to go in and do his bidding from the inside and the rest is history.
(Note: I had no idea they hadn't fixed it yet (at least the utf8 part)... I tested just now, and, sure, it's still broken... currently it is operating in "State 2".)
[0] https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Jorgk/8-bit_bytes_and_e-mail_c... [1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1435903 [2] https://www.ibiblio.org/harris/500milemail.html
Could you please elaborate a bit on what exactly do you mean by that?
E.g. in Firefox one can do the following:
- Connection -> SSH -> Tunnels in Putty connection options.
- Add a dynamic tunnel there.
- Start the session.
- Then enter 127.0.0.1 and the chosen port as a SOCKS v5 proxy in Firefox options.
Congratulations! A poor man's VPN is ready.
An extension like FoxyProxy can be added for further convenience.
What can be done in SeaMonkey on top of that?
I should try its HTML editor, it might be a nice upgrade from writing my HTML pages in Notepad++.
The vintage UI is part of the charm. Admittedly the "Stop" button is less useful than it was in the '90s, but I'm a believer that we've lost more than we've gained with the trend towards low-chrome browser designs.
Usually all email clients have a good web version nowadays which make the integrated email less interesting.
To make this project live again it would need to break backwards compatibility and adjust to the Firefox release cycle.
Overall it would be a good candidate to integrate with AI.
Having an assistant in an all-in-one suit is factually better than most single use AI products.
Reading and answering the chat and emails, coding, browsing, scraping, botting… actually a good platform to pretending being a human.
https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock-for-firefox-legacy
Also works with Pale Moon. There are even special builds of Pale Moon that will run on Windows XP.
It's always been a cool project, but I've personally, never found much use for it.
Changing for change's sake would mean that Chrome will need a new interface soon in order to not look ancient...
But I mean, you do you man. There's nothing wrong with liking retro interfaces. I once tried to do everything to make my computer look like Windows XP just for nostalgia. Regardless, the product has nice features that would be cool to use, except most people don't want one application on their computer to look like it was there when 9/11 happened while everything else looks new. There would be nothing wrong with having an application with the same features that's not off-putting to most users.
But sure, they can block themselves into a niche of people that don't care if UI looks nice if they really want. That's allowed. Not illegal lol.
You basically repeated my point. Change for change's sake. And it looks similar to 2009 Chrome, so yeah it's quite literally 15 years out of date.
>look like it was there when 9/11 happened while everything else looks new
So change for change's sake it seems.
You can prefer a style, you can customize it to your liking if themes are available (in this case, they are), but if you just replace the whole UI design field with "design is supposed to look nice", what you get might be an aberration. It might be pleasing to some people (but then still some, I really doubt you can find something that is universally pleasant?), but what good is that without being usable? Or if it makes usage much more difficult?
Edit: I mean that it's cool in how it looks but yeah I would never buy Tesla because the products seem unreliable and dangerous as hell
I don't think that's a purely contingent association, either: with software, how the UI looks and how the functionality works are deeply intertwined, and I think there may be a more direct correlation between "modern" software being unreliable, unconfigurable, and insecure, and it having haphazard UI designs that lack underlying organizing principles or adherence to well-established conventions.
So your original complaint seems to imply almost the opposite of what you are saying here -- that superficial aesthetics are more important to you, even to the point where you'd accept poor functionality and user-hostile anti-patterns as a viable tradeoff.
I like the Modern SeaMonkey theme. I also like the look of the classic theme (not default, but the old default, sometimes called "XPFE Classic"). Not sure if just out of nostalgia or because it looks neat to me. What I value more is that SeaMonkey's looks are customizable. I don't know if it's customizable enough to make a theme that behaves in the way you prefer, but at least there is room for customization. (I'm mentioning this because I do think this is an interesting feature to have.)
So, please consider relativizing your position, it seems you're insisting on a bias against the design just because it is not recent enough, but also wording that as an absolute.
To me that sounds like people who say some train models "look old" and "have to be replaced" just because they feature Budd-style corrugated stainless steel.
Why is that not OK? Wouldn't that mean that its UI has avoided the last ~15 years of general decline in structure and usability that we see commonly afflicting "modern" UI designs?