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TikTok Ban Measure Attached to House Foreign Aid Bill, Boosting Odds of Passage

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31 pointsnickthegreek14 comments

Putting the data concerns aside, the way China blocks countless American apps and yet at the same time basically gets free rein to compete in America with similar apps is a free trade violation and anticompetitive. It doesn’t make sense to allow from an economic standpoint.

I thought you all wanted to live in a free democracy? China is not one, so why do we have to do what China does?

Dealing with the underlying data collection and privacy issues that all the others also have would be what should be done.

Instead we are going to this fascist spiral of banning everything.

Please explain how requiring domestic ownership of a company in a single case is a facist spiral of banning everything.

You say democracy but clearly mean libertarian dreamland. No we all do not want to live in a libertarian dreamland.

My definition of free democracy doesn’t mean being forced to act like a chump. You want to do business in America, then we do business on equal grounds in your country. Per the rules set by our duly elected representatives, aka how a representative democracy is supposed to work.

Democracy doesn’t mean a libertarian free for all.

Democratic countries can and should make fair trade agreement to ensure the will of the people is carried out per their votes and elected representatives.

What a ridiculous thing to complect with foreign aid.

In their minds these are all measures to counter the "China-Russia-Iran" block.

Hmm fair.

http://archive.today/A0Q79

When did this grouping of unrelated things in bills start? It seems so slimy.

You mean like giving Alexander Hamilton the central bank if the US capital moved to Virginia?

It's not slimy, it's called normal compromise, and it's been a basic building block of politics for thousands of years, but is often seen as slimy by people who are naive about it.

If you and I are arguing and I want X and you want Y, and can only afford one, a logical compromise is to have half of X and half of Y. That's what combined bills basically do -- package together unrelated things, which seperately, would have to be voted down, because the reds would vote down X by a slight margin, the blues would vote down Y by a slight margin, and nothing would ever really get done if you kept issues unbundled -- but by bundling you are able to achieve GETTING THINGS DONE THROUGH COMPROMISE

For more information, take a basic high school course on government and politics, or read some history eg https://www.amazon.com/U-S-Government-Politics-Prep-Plus/dp/...

Soyjack pointing -> 1,000s of years "RED/BLUE normal compromise".

Excuse me? Do you speak English?

China forced Apple to remove WhatsApp and Threads because they don’t allow China to spy on its people

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40083409

TikTok spies in US citizens and somehow you feel that it’s slimy to block it?

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