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> Yeah, well frankly most EDM fucking sucks and that's pretty much why. Your average cool guy "producer" doesn't know the first thing about intervals, counterpoint, or even basics like triads or major/minor scales. But they sure can twist knobs in a way that makes neat sounds!

That's a pretty harsh objective take for a highly subjective topic.

A lot of people like it - myself included. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not valid.

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I didn't say I didn't like some EDM. Some is made by very talented people.

At least they have more talent than I've seen in a lot of the newer rap artists, who apparently can't leave home without an auto-tune box handy.

EDM at least has to be considered, and likely, no matter how crap it is, someone put some sort of effort into it. Speaking into a pitch bender takes nothing but breath, and I'm stuck listening to this garbage in traffic every day.

That's not true either. Look at something like Carlie XCX - Pop 2, the autotune is doing interesting things. I'm sure it's not just the technology of it, but also the technique.

Also moving back to one of the most well known autotune users T-Pain is a great singer without the technology. It's obvious there's more to it then just auto-aim function.

Some people use it that way, but it doesn't mean the technology is fundamentally limited to that scope.

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