US House approves FISA renewal – warrantless surveillance and all
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9-11 was decades ago and we still haven't gotten our freedom from being surveilled back.
We "gave up" a number of "rights" during COVID and the restrictions were voluntarily relinquished by the government as they were no longer needed. It helped that the changes were very obvious to the average person -- i.e. mask mandates and inter-state travel limitations.
(Note: I personally found some actions reasonable hence the quotes above)
Those with power will manipulate people into preserving that power through fear, uncertainty, or doubt. Secret courts, gag orders, and disinformation will be used to keep Americans in the dark at all costs.
We’re discussing a bill whose text is public and which was openly debated in the Congress. None of this was in the dark. It was just, unfortunately, wholly uninteresting to most voters.
at some point we decided all that was ok, either directly out of anger as we did after 9/11, or indirectly by not stopping them.
At some point we decided to elect people who would turn against us
At some point we decided we don’t care about right and wrong, for the people, we care about I’m right and you’re wrong, for our party.
> at some point we decided all that was ok
> At some point we decided to elect people who would turn against us
> At some point we decided we don’t care about right and wrong,
All of those things are about no longer being in control, and they are not even necessarily true statements. Who is "we", exactly?
We could get it back. But we don’t care about it.
I know staffers on a handful of House and Senate staff. Nobody could understand why Judiciary was taking up this cause, because when you look at call sheets, the voters who care about privacy don’t tend to call and don’t tend to vote. (Large crossover between the lazy and/or nihilists and the privacy conscious.) That pattern bore out here, and eventually, was used to grind down the dissidents.
Hell, I didn’t bother calling about it, and my Congresswoman was trying to build a coalition for. I’m keeping my ear to the ground in case a wave of heightened give-a-shit comes through. But it strikes me there are better issues to spend time on.
I didn't expect any different, but I also understand that America is a failed state with an unenforced Constitution.
Which takes a special kind of cognitive dissonance to be like, "This is fine for thee but not for me"
While I have a dim view of Congress, even they aren't dumb enough to believe that would hold true. Every other "exception" has been ignored in the quest for gathering every scrap of data.
Source?
“I take objection with the fact that members of Congress get treated specially in this law over regular citizens,” Massie said.
Not a warrant requirement. Not even a right to notice. Pretty milquetoast.
[1] https://www.congress.gov/118/bills/hr6611/BILLS-118hr6611ih.... § 103
https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1...
This bill is an obvious violation of the 4th amendment of the U.S. Constitution.
In my state, all electors (votors) must swear the following Oath: “I do solomnly swear (or affirm) that I will protect and defend the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of…”
It is my interpretation that anyone that votes for any of the yea-voters in the upcoming election would be a violation of that Oath to uphold the Constitution.
God party politics will be the death of us. Why even bother electing specific individuals at this point. How is this bill not abhorrent to more Republicans, and to wit how is this bill not fine with more Democrats?
In a saner world this bill should have split both parties on auth/lib lines. It is truly a testament that we can make anything partisan along one specific ideological axis, even totally orthogonal issues.