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EPA has specifically addressed this in their EV FAQ because it’s such a common dig: https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/electric-vehicle-myths#Myt...

This was discussed previously and the consensus was that break-even point with ICE is around 20k miles which is not a lot

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I'm not sure we should be celebrating EVs when we could have done much more with public transportation and micromobility.

Given that they have 90kWh battery packs, I don't think many of the Jaguar I-PACEs in my area have even hit the "break-even" CO2 point when their owners are now trying to unload them. For some of these cars it's taken 5 years to get to just 25k miles.

https://www.kbb.com/cars-for-sale/all/jaguar/i-pace/seattle-...

My e-bike with a .36kWh battery pack has done far, far more for the environment than any EV ever will.

Picking a Jaguar is a little disingenuous as luxury cars like that are often sold fairly quickly as their owners can afford to buy/lease new cars more or less as often as they would like. Unless they are going straight to landfill for some reason, their lifetime should be longer than their ICE equivalents since they are simpler machines and much easier to do maintenance on.

> I don't think many of the Jaguar I-PACEs in my area have even hit the "break-even" CO2 point when their owners are now trying to unload them. For some of these cars it's taken 5 years to get to just 25k miles.

That’s a silly example and I dont see how it invalidates anything in my comment. Those are leisure vehicles, do you really believe someone will pick an ebike or a bus to go on a Sunday ride along the coast?

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