Hacker News Reader

Comment by spencerchubb | Hacker News Reader

This trend of "All You Need" in paper titles needs to die. The original "Attention is All You Need" used that title because it is literally true in their case. So many papers just use it as a meme now, and it distracts from the true insight of the paper.

View on HN

it's uncreative/tired but at least to the point. Too many papers are confused / opaque agglomerations of a year's worth of research shoehorned into a paper. At least with these you can fairly easily assess whether the claim is supported or not.

Obviously, more people are going to read it.

It is like putting a stupid face on your youtube video to show how shocked and amazed you are at the content.

I think more or less the same thing about the word "meme" as you have used it.

I feel I used the word 'meme' appropriately

"A meme is an idea, behavior, or style that spreads by means of imitation from person to person within a culture and often carries symbolic meaning representing a particular phenomenon or theme."

Paper authors use "All You Need" to allude to the well-known transformer paper, even if their proposed technique is not in fact all you need.

You used the word in the sense it commonly used, which is something like "often-repeated" or, more frequently, "shared a lot on social media."

While I agree that this is consistent with the WP definition in the broadest sense, it isn't really what Dawkins had in mind in the Selfish Gene.

My understanding is that a meme spreads through memetics similar to how a gene spreads through genetics. Ideas will spread that are fit for reproduction, i.e. communication.

Oftentimes memes are powerful at reproducing, but in science we don't want ideas that are likely to spread. We want ideas that are truthful

"All You Need Considered Harmful."

"'All You Need Considered Harmful.' Is All You Need"

“Make All You Need Great Again Considered Harmful.”

What if "Considered Harmful" is considered harmful?

It's equally annoying to see this comment crop up every single time someone uses the phrase.

And it’s equally annoying to see this comment about that comment about the paper every time. Recursion!

This is why I come to Hacker News :)

Reply on news.ycombinator.com