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> I like it less and less

Would you mind eloborating?

I don't like the closed environment where you are not a first-class citizen if you are not using vs or rider. I always work on vim and linux, and I am getting tired of fighting with whatever new stuff microsoft makes that does not work out of the box (their latest LSP that does not follow the spec they created themselves as my latest example).

It's not at all a closed environment though? You can live entirely on the command line if you wanted to and that's a fully supported workflow.

they are definitely making progress but that's clearly not the most open ecosystem. for example there is no open source debugger available (there is netcoredbg which is community maintained and lack important features or there is the vscode one which is licensed as "you need an official vscode version to use it, even vscodium can't use it")

Support for some platforms with C# is also a bit lacking. Getting C# stuff up and running on FreeBSD can be a challenge for example.

Do you daily drive FreeBSD?

It’s what I run on my home server. Most of my interaction with a command line is with macOS, which makes BSDs more familiar, and jails are nice for containment that works without external tools. First class built in ZFS is nice too.

Quick search turns up with results to setup .NET runtime on FreeBSD without much hassle:

- https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/install-net-sdk-6-7-8-on-...

- https://www.freshports.org/lang/dotnet

And it is up-to-date, props to the maintainers!

I wonder if publishing for FreeBSD without one is problematic if you use either single-file JIT (trimmed, self-contained) executables or NAOT ones.

But given it's a server, such workloads generally favour JIT so it should not be an issue but I understand what you are getting at. With that said, it certainly doesn't seem to be as easy as `sudo apt-get install dotnet-sdk-8.0` but not as bad as building everything from source (which should not be too bad still, build.sh in dotnet/runtime does a lot of work for you to be able to just clone and build and the repo also has instructions for building for FreeBSD).

Rust has ruined every other programming language for me.

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