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I met Ross when I was a student member of the university council where he took a very active role in holding the university leadership accountable.

Interestingly, he only started his PhD aged 35/36 after some time in industry.

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It's when we met. I was doing my PhD at the time. At the computer lab we had tea breaks when people in different research groups would meet and chat. He was a very interesting person to talk to as you can imagine even by the standards of that tea room.

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