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Copilot pane as annoying as Clippy may pop up in Windows 11

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Copilot is already encumbering Edge more with each frequent update, less than a month apart.

Recently Copilot has come to inhabit the wonderful Edge Sidebar along with a number of other new default opt-ins you may not want.

I crack the whip and configure Edge trying to neutralize the sidebar, plus have it it retreat out of sight, but did get the impression that Copilot was not wanting to be confined to the sidebar anyway.

On an older PC that ran Windows 7 & 8 quite fast using a SSD and with more than enough memory, and ran Windows 10 almost as acceptable back in 2015, Windows 10 itself has gradually gotten slower on a regular basis after occasional updates. Which is well-known but it's definitely more obvious with a less-modern processor like this.

Anyway, up until less than a year ago Edge would still play the live local news stream without much problem, and Firefox was just fine. Over the last few months, with each Edge update, Edge has gotten really worse so it's now unusable for this. On the same hardware. Now Firefox is only about 95% useful, so the page itself and the ads it carries have probably gotten worse across-the-board. Booting the same hardware to run Firefox on a Linux distro plays the same stream smoothly still, same as last year after all the ads have loaded. On the same ethernet router, PC's having more powerful processors are all still fine. The live stream is far from HD.

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How about as annoying as Cortana?

They also made some really strange UX choice.

Like hitting the copilot shortcut opens the pane but cursor focus doesn’t go to the text input. I’m not here to admire the pretty pane - I want to type in a question.

How does that make it past testing? Sure a single attempt to use it by someone vaguely awake would reveal that issue

It is unfortunate that they back-ported this copilot garbage to 10. Of course, I’d never use Windows for anything serious, but 10 works OK as a glorified console, just for playing games. I’m really hoping they don’t mess it up too much before I can switch gaming over to Linux too.

What’s stopping you from switching to Linux now?

Games that just don't work, particularly ones with anti cheat

A couple things. Anti-cheat software. I don’t really play competitive game but for some reason Helldivers 2 has anti-cheat (I guess it is the live-service model).

Nebulous and ill-founded concern that my PC (2018 era) might suffer a little from the not-emulation-but-sorta-emulation layer of Proton. I haven’t researched this, though.

Mostly it is just bearable at the moment, and I think I’m probably about a year or so out from wanting to upgrade anyway, so I might just do it all at once.

On games without anti-cheat, proton performs 5-8% better than windows 10

I think you would be suprised how solid linux gaming is by now. I play Helldivers 2 with my son - One windows machine, one Ubuntu. No issues with anti-cheat so far. Only issue, with linux gaming, at the moment is some MS published games with wonky networking code (like AoE4). I see no performance dip at all on proton vs win-native.

I probably would be! I tried it seriously with AAA games around 10 years ago. I keep a copy of Steam/proton on my Linux laptop, it does seem pretty good, but it is a thin-and-light so I’ve only been playing simple games on it. I assumed the AAA stuff was pickier

When I used Proton Glorious Eggroll for a while, it played my entire steam library better than windows.

Also, pop os makes nvidia drivers automatic.

Imagine someone having a workflow for 20 years on an OS. This isn't like just IDE+browser. Wine/VM is spotty still. Also not having to fight with each piece of uncommon hardware.

Fair points. Although Windows changed a lot the last 20 years. The hardware issue i can confirm - only reason my desktop workstation is still on windows.

Age of Empires 2 does not work well on Linux.

Games with anti-cheat, Adobe apps, a few apps for work that only run on Windows

Well then people will switch it off in settings, like I did switched off Copilot in settings few months ago, like I did switched off and hide Cortana few years ago. No reason for outrage.

Hopefully Microsoft will remove this setting so you won't be able to disable it.

Then I will change it in Group policies. Enterprise would be pissed if it would not be possible.

Not a problem: MS can make it impossible in the consumer versions only. MS frequently does stuff like that, giving the Enterprise users abilities that users of the other Windows editions don't get.

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