YouTube: Google has found a way to break Invidious
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I don't think this was a hostile action by Google. An engineer probably just fixed a bug with input validation which broke the malformed requests Invidious was sending.
https://gchq.github.io/CyberChef/#recipe=URL_Decode()From_Ba...
> It is likely that existing alternatives and new alternatives will see huge user jumps when that happens.
I've heard that often and i'm pessimistic about it in general. Although there might be some hope, because the channels Invidious users might prefer (nerd stuff) are more likely to move to an alternative, than others.
If you'd be willing to pay more than that to watch videos I am sure they'd take your money.
Wolfram Alpha helpfully formatted it as "0.14" and I missed the cent sign. https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=%2431.5+billion+%2F+21%...
I don't really care what Google attributes to YouTube indirect or direct revenue and costs on their P&L in the context of average revenue, costs, and approximate minutes streamed, since the marginal costs are ridiculously cheap.
There is a lot of value in Google adopting the first mover advantage in a Bernoulli market. I'd imagine shareholders care about that a lot.
No I understood it perfectly, it is just absurd. You lack power, leverage, or influence over Google so the only lever you have to make a better deal is by offering more money than you are currently to get the terms you'd like.
They should still rethink their model, regardless.
0.0014 cents per minute is $0.000014 per minute.
But it still is a fact that Google is trying to limit access to YouTube through alternatives like yt-dlp and invidious by constantly trying to break stuff.
It's long been known that Google's weapon is change; they've been doing that with web "standards" too. For YouTube, I guess the next stage in the cat-and-mouse game is to automate fixing it, and I even dare say that this new AI stuff might come in handy for that.
> > Google's weapon
The culture I find myself in, in 2024, is one of war; unrecognisable from anything I've seen in "peaceful civilian life" before. It has no resemblance to business, to markets, to value, to a lawful society of fairness, utility and cohesion. What happened to us?
I'm genuinely sorry for you that you feel your culture has become nothing but an extractive free-for-all. There remain people who still aspire to treating others as ends and not means. Extraction is not productivity. To produce is to create. Your comment kinda validates what I was hinting at more though; that BigTech now sees itself as in all-out "do what though wilt" conflict with the civil population. It's a cyber war in all but name - though we still pretend it's "business". At some point the population are going to figure the rules have changed. From that point I'd give FAANG a few months to a year. Most analysts have figured that a cyber war would be inter-national rather than intra/civil conflict. We'll need a backup plan for Google/Microsoft etc unless they're radically neutralised (by government breakup or similar)
If you're taking a walk in the forest, you don't care if you're crushing insects under your feet. You do nothing to deliberately crush them, but you don't walk extremely slowly all the time in case there's an insect nearby.
mpv $youtubeLink> mpv with a yt-dlp hook
What does hook mean in this context? Is it some kind of plugin or addon to MPV or can MPV do that out-of-the-box?
1. A desktop application call yt-dlg/youtube-dl-gui.
2. Metube, which is a selfhosted application and there is a plugin for the browser to send things to it.
I wish I had better tools for simply saving everything I see on the internet at all times. The disk-space cost would be trivial in the era of terabyte drives, and simply never worrying about link-rot would be huge.
Browser history _used_ to do that, almost. You could browse your history offline and pages would still render. And at some point, that stopped working.
I've also evolved a CLI YT client, based on mpv/yt-dlp and fzf; it does not show thumbnails. Even so, it's perfectly fine for gathering lots of search results, like
$ yt 500 medical uses for hollandaise
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[0] One of the first things I did with eww was to bind "I" to a function that toggles images on or off and re-displays the current page.
[1] In my setup, I can override all special handling of a URL by holding Ctrl while hitting Enter to follow a link.
[2] Earlier today, I had a fascinating conversation with TinyLLama about the medical uses of hollandaise and options for regulating it. Did you know that it can be taken intravenously to help fight cancer?
The fight between G and alternative front ends reminds me of the over engineered solution by NYC MTA to prevent people from hopping the turnstile.
They invested some millions of dollars into building and deploying the system. Only for the system to be a very mild deterrent which can be easily fooled.
More discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39882455
This is just google being google and changing stuff.
There are videos where it works and videos where it doesn't.
It's been a few months now where some proportion of videos fail to play over Piped no matter what (the same videos will fail across public instances too) and anecdotally that percentage has increased recently.