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Secret report warns Canadians may revolt once they realize how broke they are

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For a country that heavily depends on immigrant labour, I find Canada's economic policies weird. As is, the shit weather they have make it a very unattractive place to live compared to other developed states. Add to that, low pay (especially for tech jobs), deliberate crippling of their healthcare system by reducing funds for it (from what I have read), unaffordable homes, rising cost of living etc. all make Canada an even more unattractive destination for potential migrants.

The biggest problems are bad immigration policies, housing crisis, bad job market.

It was a decent place 20 years ago. It has declined since significantly.

I wish you'd be right. Because Canada's population recently passed 40M, and both 2022 and 2023 have seen more than 1M new immigrants coming in each year. That's 2.5% of actual total population augmentation _per year_.

Try that say, in the US. One time 2.5% on 350M population bring 9M new immigrants. Real US number for 2022: 1M immigrants [0] - so same as Canada.

99% actual problems in Canada (housing prices and healthcare) are direct consequence to immigration policies and flow. As for tech job low pay, blame distance from valley bubble.

[0] https://www.forbes.com/sites/andyjsemotiuk/2022/12/30/us-imm...

But how many are still staying in Canada? US figures are low because after Europe it is one of hardest country to move to. I am from India, and what I see is that most indians who wish to emigrate choose Canada because it is currently the easiest country to migrate to (the requirements are lower because inhospitable weather and economy makes it unattractive for migrants and Canada needs labour). However, many indians, especially the better qualified ones, eventually hope to move to the US from Canada, and it is not their preferred destination.

Also, I do not agree that unaffordable housing prices and the fall in quality of healthcare can be attributed majorly to immigration. Flawed economic policies on real estate (allowing foreign investments, not considering rent control etc.) and cutting funds for socialised healthcare to push privatisation are bigger factors at play, in my opinion.

You say I attributed problems to immigration? No, immigration policies (which includes foreign investment control), and immigration flow. Please, read again. All I'm saying is 2.5% annual adult population increase is unsustainable in the short term.

As for flawed economics policies, well, every country has its share. Some more than others. Immigration flow wouldn't be the same without them.

the weirdest part is how most democratic countries fully accepted and embraced censorship again.

imagine if any other point in time an american or canadian or briton reading a paper with phrases like "The censor’s pen also deleted most of a section warning about"

crazy.

Explanation: the cited report was obtained under information access law. That's when someone (medias most time) ask for some government (internal) documents access. The legislator can decide to redact parts of it upon release, and for any reason (theath to national security is most often cited). Please understand this report was never to be made public, for the same reason FBI's briefs to POTUS don't get published.

Of course, seeing one getting all worked up upon reading about _censor_ or _censorship_ is understandable given the context was left out, mostly because the National Post audience is local, and the editing line is flirting with propaganda, as this particular piece's purpose was to deliberatebly stain actual government's image.

thank you for providing such a illustrative example of exactly the sentiment i was pointing out as unbelievable.

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