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WebP2P - New Peer to Peer Technology on the Web

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> There is a new mailing list for peer to peer hackers

Well, there is an old mailing list too - http://lists.zooko.com/mailman/listinfo/p2p-hackers - which is still the place to go for all p2p questions. Pretty much anyone and everyone notable in p2p domain is on it, and the discussion quality tends to be similar to that of early HN.

Hey, who keeps submitting my articles to HN? >=)

This one jumped the gun a bit.. I just got control of the WebP2P.org domain name and this evening I was going to put up a real website with actually useful information rather than that crappy blog post.. oh well, internet moves too fast for me!

Seriously, you should join the list if you're interested! Please introduce yourself if you do! There's tons of great people on there already and things are starting to heat up.

It's frustrating to see so many disparate efforts.

For example, there's the Peer to Peer Streaming Protocol[1] work occurring in the IETF. Really fantastic stuff! (they basically took Bittorrent, stripped the cruft, and used a Merkle Tree to enable streaming.)

[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/ppsp/

Don't forget RELOAD, DECADE, and ALTO. The IETF is somewhat broken right now because they let people who frankly don't matter create working groups, and so those WGs turn out to be pointless. But to their credit, PPSP (swarming overlay multicast) is fairly orthogonal to WebRTC (low-latency point-to-point A/V chat). There are probably some aspects of the protocols that could be similar; I don't know if they're trying to converge those parts.

I'd replace the word "frustrating" with "exciting" or "promising". What's frustrating about choice, competition and experimentation?

Isn't the hardest aspect always going to be getting browser support for NAT PMP?

Well, there are a lot of folks from companies like Ericsson and Cisco working on IETF's RTCWeb¹, so I guess they'll figure it out. And BitTorrent clients manage to do it, too.

¹ http://tools.ietf.org/wg/rtcweb/

Nope!

WebRTC has ICE/STUN built into it, which can suffice for traversing most domestic NATs.

It's really cool stuff - join the list!

I am not a big fan of the list archives. It makes reading long threads tough. And its awful when a reply is not quoted properly...

The best part is, if you're willing to enable a couple Chrome flags, you can have all of this. Right now. JSEP, ROAP, ROAP-over-JSEP, WebRTC, even a fairly function multipeer Skype clone in a weekend (if the Chrome team would enable multiple PC objects)

Oh? Care to elaborate with a simple HOWTO?

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