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Not really. There's a fairly small and stable number of companies that actually collect and resell information about you. There is also about a zillion ephemeral web front ends that republish this data, however. I suspect this is done for a reason, but a bit of sleuthing quickly reveals who the big players are.

These "data removal" services spend a lot of effort going after the frontends, which is pretty self-serving: they can show the customer that there's something new to remove every single month or quarter, so you have to keep paying forever.

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“There is also about a zillion ephemeral web front ends that republish this data, however”

yes this is what I mean, you need to contact each one to have data removed… there are hundreds of these

What else could they do? They're working within a system that the government designed, and the government always designs things to keep people running on the hamster wheel.

Request deletion from backend brokers? Many have some mechanisms for opt-out, either in general or for people in specific states (e.g., California).

OK so if Optery reports 330 removals, how many removals did they actually have to do on their end? A hundred? Thirty? Ten? Why should we care? If you pay a man to remove the snow from your driveway, would you be upset if he used a plow rather than a shovel?

Wouldn't you be upset if you paid him hourly so he used a spoon and went slowly enough that snow accumulates faster than he'll ever clear your driveway ?

Parent's argument is that current approach leads to an endless cat and mouse game the user ends up paying, when there would be ways to end it faster and cheaper.

Yes but how is that the fault of removal services? They can't do anything to stop the usual suspects from filing for a fresh corporation from Delaware each week.

That makes it a weirder proposition to me.

Does that mean the user keeps paying just to have someone somewhere do "something" ?

And that, even if fundamentally it can't solve the sutiation, can't prove it's even improving in any specific ways (telling you it removes hundreds of instances doesn't tell you how many have been added in the meantime), and they also have no incentives to be too zealous as the numbers in the reports would be going down and the motivation to subscribe also diminish.

Ps: perhaps the way out of this is to make it a non profit that provides jobs to people in need, and have the subscription a recurring donation ?

you have to contact all of them, they purchased the data and it’s usually in their own separate database

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