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A few years ago I sent a message to spez on Reddit asking if he'd ever open source the original Lisp version of Reddit. He actually responded and said he couldn't find it, but then a while later it was indeed released. I like to think maybe I contributed to the butterfly effect of that happening.

https://github.com/reddit-archive/reddit1.0

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Interesting, it has a del.icio.us scraper. I still don't understand why that site disappeared, it was great. By my recollection, Yahoo bought it and killed it.

I wish someone brought back a Delicious clone. I loved its naive Web 2.0 aesthetics.

I think it was a really nice service. Right now all similar ones I know of are unpleasant to use and get in your way.

It was really minimal and useful to find new things. One particular area where link sharing makes a lot of sense, yet existing services are not very nice, is academic papers.

I don’t really remember delicious, but what would the difference be from something like https://pinboard.in/popular/ ? I was under the impression that’s basically a clone. Was it just a different aesthetic?

Pinboard was a clone with a different business model: users actually paid for it.

Fast forward, and delicious died, only to be acquired by — you guessed it — Pinboard [1]. Because Pinboard was actually serving its paying customers, it just kept trucking along.

[1]: https://blog.pinboard.in/2017/06/pinboard_acquires_delicious...

delicious launched before Pinboard, IIRC. There were a number of such services.

try it out. del.icio.us

That's exactly what happened and made me hate Yahoo even more than I already had. The day delicious was shut down for good I lost something that I have never managed to replace. Sad times :(

It still exists.

That's really cool! Thanks for link. I guess I just never assumed that would be open sourced!

Old versions of Reddit (in Python IIRC) were open source. They just stopped updating it.

I once asked a famous biscuit (cookie) factory nearby in a smallish city that never gives tours whether I could tour the factory just as a bucket list check off and never expected to get anywhere.

They said they don't do that and will never do that unfortunately.

A couple weeks later they auctioned off tickets to the factory tours as a "special event". I felt incredibly sour from that. I felt like a little more of humanity had eroded.

You wanted something from someone for free and then felt sour that they were going to charge for it?

Are you friends with these people? Why do they owe you anything

I think the annoyance is that they weren't interested in giving tours until someone asked, and they figured out they could make a profit. Pretty reasonable to expect a ticket, even if it isn't free.

I guess the annoyance is they said never, changed their mind, and auction the ticket off.

If I were the factory owner, I would reserve a ticket for him and give a discounted price to thank for his idea.

Yeah I felt sour but I didn't really have any reason to in today's modern world. I shouldn't expect the human I talked with to actually care.

Depending on the trade secrets involved it could be a paranoid choice made in an area that rewards paranoia.

Maybe having somebody reach out for a tour was just red flaggy enough. I agree it’s weird and kind of crummy to then offer an auction up.

That's not why I felt sour. My original request even offered to pay for it.

Could you not participate in the auction?

I found out well after unfortunately. And tickets were sold pretty damn fast.

Auction? So, for charity?

Man A: "Hey B, here's a nice idea. Will you do it?"

Man B: "No. Fuck off."

Local News: "Man B wins the lottery after exploiting a free idea."

Yep, you can advocate everything is fine with this scenario. You could instead advocate for a different scenario. You know, when you talk to your kids. Or family. Or friends. Or neighbours. And they talk to their x/y/z/a/b/c. Or you could advocate for being an asshole to, what amounts to, a finite number of people. Like a pebble in the pond, causing ripples. Some are poison. Some are not. But you choose which it is.

I think the issue here is a form of main character syndrome. Where people over-value their ideas, feel entitled, and make up stories where everyone else is the asshole.

Man A thinks he is a genius, and man B never considered a tour. Man A assumes nobody else has ever asked, and they aren't the 10th person this week. Man A thinks the idea is a critical contribution, not having the knowledge, planning, giving the tour, or having a factory.

Yeah this is why I let my sour feelings go but still consider the interaction funny.

Why would I, a grown man, be let into a factory based on a bucket list idea out of nowhere? Even if it's something people would have gladly done in this corner of the world 20 years ago.

Why would they, a professional company, talk to me ever again even if I were the straw to break the camels back of "touring". haha

That’s the way the cookie crumbles.

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