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Comment by carlosjobim | Hacker News Reader

Where does that "dominant position" idea come from, that you and others are claiming in this thread? Apple is nowhere near having a dominant position in any of the markest where they compete, such as cell phones or computers.

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In the U.S. where this lawsuit was filed, Apple controls 50-60% of the smartphone market, where the next largest competitor Samsung holds only 20-25% [1]. Among U.S. teenagers the iPhone has a massive 87% market share [2]. That is indisputably dominant.

[1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/620805/smartphone-sales-...

[2] https://www.pipersandler.com/teens

iPhone has a 55-60% market share in the US & Canada. So Id be pretty happy with saying they have the 'dominant position' in the North American mobile market.

https://explodingtopics.com/blog/iphone-android-users

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/iphone-ma...

Fair enough, that's dominant in the US.

It is a term of art. How Apple acts has an impact on markets. Indeed, as the EU says directly

> The European Commission has fined Apple over €1.8 billion for abusing its dominant position

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_24_...

They control a huge swath of the market and block/limit ability of users and 3rd parties to use their devices, so it's not just about being dominant, it's about how you act as a dominant corporation/company.

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