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Can you provide sources where they actually threaten to nuke anyone out of the blue (excluding Medvedev, he’s especially nuts)? All I can find is them clarifying their nuclear policy when pressed about it (would only use in situation of existential threat). Which seems less bellicose than US policy (as the US changed ours not long ago, seemingly allowing for first strike which is pretty insane): https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2022-12/focus/bidens-disappo...

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Then you remember they called Ukraine in NATO an existential threat, and wiped their butts with international treaties that were supposed to be much more set in stone than some half-official nuclear doctrine.

However, this is all playing chicken. Whenever they were facing actual opposition, they backed down.

Which threats and treaties, specifically? I don't have a great memory - so please share actual sources.

Also, are you aware of this?: https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2019-09/news/us-completes-in...

For some speculative context: this is because of the "pivot to Asia" as the US does not have a strategic arms reduction treaty with China and is not intended to escalate the arms race with Russia (although that might be a side-effect).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum

As for INF, US withdrawal was a response to Russia testing infringing missiles first.

Maybe, but US pulled out first:

https://www.npr.org/2019/02/05/691521600/russia-pulls-out-of...

Pulling out of treaty is not as treacherous as claiming obeying the treaty, and not obeying it.

Here are a few.

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-polytics/3503924-president-...

That is not an unbiased primary source in the slightest.

Is BFMTV also biased when reporting words directly from the mouth of Piotr Tolstoi or are you just trolling ?

If people are claiming that a country is threatening nuclear war, they damn well better be able to back it up with something more than narrative-shaping sound bytes.

Here's one.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum

You mean like Piotr Tolstoi talking about nuking Paris on BFMTV just today ? (https://fr.yahoo.com/news/calcule-proche-vladimir-poutine-%C...).

Medvedev is chairman of the Russian security council though, who else would be more qualified for dishing out the weekly nuclear threat?

Which weekly nuclear threat?

Sensational out of context drive by sound bytes from the likes of Guardian, Fox News, Twitter and video gammer subreddits are not sources - they’re click bait.

https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews

Months and months of this nonsense now.

Do you really think Solovyov and Simonyan are broadcasting it without official approval?

I literally just wrote Twitter is not news. And you posted a random Twitter profile. I’m not even sure what you expect me to see there.

Show me any actual authoritative source not from social or drive-by media pointing out where the official Russian position is some kind of first strike.

Also here: https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offens...

This is not a source, it’s an option piece and not even on topic. Anything from ISW is not neutral, it’s ideological due to the Nuland-Kagan connection: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1kjvOsXwAA1tVk.jpg

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