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Long-term leisure computer use 'linked to increased erectile dysfunction risk'

independent.co.uk

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The article says "erectile dysfunction" sometimes and "sperm production" sometimes. Which is it? Those things seem like they could diverge quite a lot!

Clickbait title. First sentence of the article is Spending a lot of leisure time on the computer may be linked to an increased risk of erectile dysfunction in men, research suggests.

When they say may they mean most likely doesn't.

It can be the other kind of dysfunction, where you get wood over and over again even without internal or external stimuli. Self-sustaining the wood is still no more than a matter of practice and (self-coerced) spaced repetition.

I understood the first sentence and was not aware that this is an issue. Your second sentence i don't get.

As if blood going to our brains and not our dicks is a bad thing!

Edit: Just thought I’d drop this gem here to show the lengths men sometimes go to keep their “mojo”: https://youtu.be/5IZrYeUX3MI?si=hhVcQHrZEJk0R8HG

Is it really about "long-term leisure computer use", or maybe it's more about "long-term sedentary/lack-of-exercise lifestyle"?

"However, the researchers said there was no evidence to suggest that other sitting activities such as watching television or driving for leisure increased the risk of erectile dysfunction."

In the article, just a few sentences past the headline

No mention of whether (for example) use of a standing desk helps.

You know, I'm starting to think wet sidewalks cause rain.

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Did they look at what KIND of leisure is involved in the computer "leisure" time? Did they just ask the participants how much time they spent on the computer?

In this day of 24h/24 porn accessible online it stands to reason that would be a major contributor in the ED problem.

Having said that spending a long time sitting without moving probably doesn't contribute to our nuggets'health.

>> In this day of 24h/24 porn accessible online it stands to reason that would be a major contributor in the ED problem.

What?

I am confused by your statement. Are you saying porn causes ED? I would casually think that would mean most men would have ED :)

A quick search of the web [1][2][3] shows several Psychology and also Medical papers showing porn does not cause ED. Wondering (if I am reading your statement correctly) where you correlate porn use to ED. I think that would be newsworthy.

[1] https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/all-about-sex/201908...

[2] https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/all-about-sex/202201...

[3] https://www.nature.com/articles/s41443-022-00596-y

There are some studies that claim there is a link:

- Associations Between Online Pornography Consumption and Sexual Dysfunction in Young Men: Multivariate Analysis Based on an International Web-Based Survey: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8569536/

- Is Internet Pornography Causing Sexual Dysfunctions? A Review with Clinical Reports: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5039517/

While there are others which claim there may be a weak link but still inconclusive:

- Pornography and Sexual Dysfunction: Is There Any Relationship?: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11930-023-00380-z

> While there are others which claim there may be a weak link but still inconclusive

You say that but then link to a broad meta study that is conclusive that no strong relationship exists .. ie. there's no signal, just noise.

    Recent Findings: Twenty-eight studies directly related to the issue were identified, and another 23 studies were used as supporting material

    Summary: Claims of a strong relationship between pornography use and sexual dysfunction are generally unfounded, both by the findings of studies and/or by misinterpretations of them.

Some things are so obviously true that only a team of academics could convince themselves otherwise.

The main factor that I'm aware of is hyperstimulation. There's the mental effect from exposure to increasingly extreme and perverse categories of porn (pedophilia, AGP/sissy, interracial, bestiality, BDSM, etc) "numbing" porn-sick men to healthy sexual stimuli, as well as the physical effects of overstimulation in the form of "death grip syndrome" where these men become so accustomed to their hands that nothing else can do the job.

These factors, combined with the lowered confidence and shame associated with porn addiction, intuitively also lead to anxiety-related performance issues.

> Some things are so obviously true that only a team of academics could convince themselves otherwise.

Ah, yes. I feel it must be so, so no need for evidence and of course any evidence that exists otherwise must be false.

I don't think extreme and perverse categories are necessary at all.

I also think your list is weird. Pedophilia is dimetral to a normal relationship.

Why interracial? If you are in such a relationship, you can live it out.

Porn is how the insidious communists impurify and drain our precious bodily fluids.

That, and watching too many movies from 1964 on the intertubes.

> The analysis, published in Andrology, also suggests these men showed a stronger genetic tendency for leisure computer use.

Ah, yes, the "computer" gene.

Eh?

Or maybe the geek/nerd gene?

What about men browsing hackernews vs men not browsing hackernews?

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