Aren’t there payment processors that allow adult content? Makes me wonder why a platform like Gumroad couldn’t just use a different processor for customers that mark themselves as NSFW.
Use bank transfer or better yet instead, purchase gifts for the creator on their Amazon, Etsy, etc wishlist in exchange for content or use gift cards.
The above solutions are way better than crypto as it's mostly used for crime and illicit transactions and speculation.
Modern blockchain payment systems (see Base) have transaction fees that are an order of magnitude cheaper than any trad processors; they don’t discriminate based on moral grounds; transactions settle in seconds rather than days; they are not bound to only certain countries; funds are not custodially held by a single centralized tech company; the list goes on.
Much of the rationale for anti-crypto among communities that would most benefit from it (eg: NSFW art) is ill conceived and held together by an almost religious zeal.
> Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive
The fact that you disagree with the explanation due to ideological purity reasons is not grounds for downvoting it.
These are all your words, not theirs. They didn't suggest this at all.
> The fact that you disagree with the explanation due to ideological purity reasons is not grounds for downvoting it.
This is true, but:
1) I didn't downvote it (I literally can't)
2) There are other good reasons to downvote it, such as what I linked.
Unless you have something more to say about cyrpto I think we should leave this here.
I'm failing to understand how you could have read what I wrote and come to the conclusion I didn't suggest that, given that I literally said it was not realistic.
As an operator, I'd also want a smart contract that collects payments from a list of tokens/altcoins and immediately converts it to USDC.
Also re: auto converting tokens - you can jusr make a service to do that, it doesn't have to be a smart contract. A smart contract probably could be used with a DEX though, but I think that may be needlessly complex.
This is super interesting. Has anyone done this?
Literally no artist anywhere has ever received an actual payment from an actual customer with this method (I'm not counting the artist themselves making a test payment).
No, if Gumroad bans you, you can't just set up your own crypto smart contracts and make money that way. This is some academic crypto anarchist fantasy.
> No, if Gumroad bans you, you can't just set up your own crypto smart contracts and make money that way.
For no reason other than people don't want to.
You're living in complete fantasy land. There are many reasons people find it hard to make payments in crypto, other than "just don't want to".
Again, I'm reiterating the point that artists need to eat food to live, and artists would be happy to set up payments in crypto, if that would lead to them gaining access to food. But it wouldn't, so they won't.
> You can look at the code. It's like 50 lines. It is logically trivial
Ah yes, the thing I always love to do before purchasing a naughty comic book: code reviews! I just love to read the code that verifies that my $2 purchase of a comic book. I love sweating nervously and verifying that clicking this button will not have unforeseen consequences, such as one where I lose my house because I missed something in code review. wHy dOEsNT evERyONe jUSt uSE crYPtO
You're just arguing against things I am not saying.
> There are many reasons people find it hard to make payments in crypto, other than "just don't want to".
Feel free to elaborate.
> artists need to eat food to live, and artists would be happy to set up payments in crypto, if that would lead to them gaining access to food. But it wouldn't, so they won't.
Can you give reasons why it wouldn't besides people (which includes payers) don't want to use it?
> Ah yes, the thing I always love to do before purchasing a naughty comic book: code reviews!
People are able to make apps. I didn't link an app because I don't know of any, and I don't really care to find one if it already exists. I linked code because this is a hacker forum, and it was trivial to get.
Sure! Acquiring the required paperwork and banking connections to get on crypto on/off ramps is difficult. That's one reason.
Anyway, see how you retreated your argument to "which includes payers"? So it seems that you actually agree with me that artists wouldn't be able to set up crypto payments to provide a livelihood for themselves, due to reasons which are outside their control.
You're conflating collectibles, which are purchased for speculative purposes, to the kinds of art which are purchased for consumption. Yes, you can use crypto to build ponzi-like games for digital assets, everybody knows that. The question here is can an artist charge like $5 for a comic book or $10 for a monthly subscription. And the answer to that question is no, not to an extent where they would be able to afford food, which they need in order to continue living.
> You don’t need tons of paperwork to set up on and off ramps.
I personally needed a passport, a driver's license, and a recent electricity bill. I also needed a mobile phone with video camera, plus a banking connection which is crypto friendly.
> You're conflating collectibles
No—I am talking broadly about artists selling their work through crypto, and some of it does include $5 comics, like Sloth Zine:
The artist, sure. But once the artist goes through all that work to set it up, will they get access to food which they need in order to continue living? No, they won't. Because the consumers will prefer products that are easy to pay for.
> No—I am talking broadly about artists selling their work through crypto, and some of it does include $5 comics, like Sloth Zine:
aaand the link you gave is an NFT collectible...
The price point was not the main point here - sure an NFT doesn't have to be expensive it can also be cheap. That was not the point. My point was that the audience for ponzi-like NFT games is different from the audience for more "traditional" consumers of art. If you are, for example, an artist who currently makes comic books that people will pay for with Visa and Mastercard, you will not be able to provide food on the table by switching into crypto payments.
The reality is that a number of artists have already added crypto as an alternate and additional payment stream, and this includes comic artists and illustrators. This trend will probably continue as more platforms and payment processors make changes that are generally against the interests of their users (eg: the OP).