SXSW Tried to Silence Critics with Bogus Trademark and Copyright Claims
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However it is important to recognise the support Hamas recieves from the civilian Palestinian population. Hamas isn't supported by the majority of Gazan citizens, however their actions on Oct 7 are.
> Seventy-two percent of respondents said they believed the Hamas decision to launch the cross-border rampage in southern Israel was "correct" given its outcome so far, while 22% said it was "incorrect". The remainder were undecided or gave no answer.
> Fifty-two percent of Gazans and 85% of West Bank respondents - or 72% of Palestinian respondents overall - voiced satisfaction with the role of Hamas in the war. Only 11% of Palestinian voiced satisfaction with PA President Mahmoud Abbas.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/poll-shows-palesti...
Of course some of this can likely be explained by fear of reprisal when speaking against Hamas, however the desire to perpetuate war against the Israeli people is commonplace in Palestine.
"2023 marks deadliest year on record for children in the occupied West Bank" - Save the Children, published: 18 SEPTEMBER 2023.
>Of course some of this can likely be explained by fear of reprisal when speaking against Hamas, however the desire to perpetuate war against the Israeli people is commonplace in Palestine.
Which is completely understandable and justified, it is the natural desire & reaction to 75+ years of brutal settler colonialism with apartheid and ethnic-cleansing.
The desire to continue attacks that intentionally maximise civilian casualties as part of a war you are doomed to lose is not.
If Palestine could end its attacks on Israel, almost all international support for Israel would dry up within 6 months.
The symmetric attacks that justify the next are doomed to continue forever until both sides can hold back.
Hamas will never be that partner in peace for Israel.
Egypt and Jordan both managed to fight with Israel and come to a lasting peace, and I feel like insisting that Palestinians are incapable of the same robs them of any agency.
I of course give Israel the same accountability. The settlements are unjustifiable. The response to Oct 7 needs a huge amount of investigation in order ensure all has been done to minimise civilian casualties.
The same way Palestine needs to stop firing rockets for a lasting peace to be possible, Israel will likely need to take a couple terrorist attacks on the chin once a feasible partner for peace in Palestine has been found.
That's a blatant lie and you know it. Since Israel can murder 14K+ children and still receive support as we are witnessing, your proposed strategy most certainly will not yield the claimed results.
>Hamas will never be that partner in peace for Israel.
So why did Israel finance and support Hamas? That's because Israel had never any real interest in peace, it's a settler colonial project which wants all of the land with ideally no Palestinians in it, for which there is more than enough evidence.
>Egypt and Jordan both managed to fight with Israel and come to a lasting peace, and I feel like insisting that Palestinians are incapable of the same robs them of any agency.
The framing of this is just outright laughable. Israel holds all of the power and thus bears the prime responsibility.
>I of course give Israel the same accountability. The settlements are unjustifiable. The response to Oct 7 needs a huge amount of investigation in order ensure all has been done to minimise civilian casualties.
I'm not even going to entertain this utter dishonesty for a second. They've murdered 14K+ children, you can keep roleplaying as hard as you want but anyone who has seen a fraction of the evidence knows that there is plenty of genocidal intent documented by south africa's ICJ documents and they acted upon that.
>The same way Palestine needs to stop firing rockets for a lasting peace to be possible, Israel will likely need to take a couple terrorist attacks on the chin once a feasible partner for peace in Palestine has been found.
You are confusing cause & effect, but you already know that. The rockets are being fired because Israel has brutally oppressed, murdered and ethnically cleansed Palestinians for 75+ years with near impunity. Give me a break with your soft zionist BS manipulation.
It's one thing to justify something as military necessity, but it's hard to see any in Hamas' actions. It certainly doesn't get them any closer to getting what they want. But it does cost them support that they would otherwise have. Furthermore, realistically, the best that Palestinians can hope for is some form of two-state solutions - "from the river to the sea" is not going to happen. But it's that much harder to argue for a Palestinian state if Hamas are the ones running it, given the kind of governance they have demonstrated internally, and the kind of brutality we've seen on Oct 7.
Why do you feel the need to lie about what happened if you're convinced about what you are saying? They did certainly not massacre a thousand civilians in "their homes"(stolen land & homes of Palestinians living next to their concentration camps). IDF soliders are not civilians, reservists who are armed and ready to fight are not civilians, settlers who engage in belligerent occupation are not civilians. If you subtract all of these legitimate military targets including those who were killed by the IDF itself, you have the clear evidence that a bunch of resistance fighters have an infinitely better ratio than the Israel which is on trial for having committed genocide.
>It's one thing to justify something as military necessity, but it's hard to see any in Hamas' actions.
You say that unironically about khamas, but don't apply the same criticism of Israel, who engaged in barbarism and the kind of evil that makes hamas look like angels in comparison. What "military necessity" was there for israel to murder 14k children and starve them to death?
> It certainly doesn't get them any closer to getting what they want.
The world has now woken up to Israel's evil and most people recognize it for what it is, a genocidal apartheid ethno-state hellbent on destroying the natives by any means. Zionists have lost control of the narrative, so I'd say that does indeed get the resistance somewhat closer to getting what they want.
>Furthermore, realistically, the best that Palestinians can hope for is some form of two-state solutions - "from the river to the sea" is not going to happen.
Speculative, dismissed. Israel is a paper tiger, so I'd say there is a very realistic chance of "from the river to the sea" happening.
>But it's that much harder to argue for a Palestinian state if Hamas are the ones running it, given the kind of governance they have demonstrated internally, and the kind of brutality we've seen on Oct 7.
So let me get this straight: After a single day of inflicting on the brutal settler colonialists a fraction of the pain which Israel has been inflicting on Palestinians for 75+ years, you claim "it's hard to argue for a Palestinians state" but you see no problem in granting that to Israel!? You are NOT a serious person.
Public opinion polling shows that the lionshare of support for Israel in America, where it matters most, comes from Evangelical Christians. They support Israel because they believe it is necessary to reincarnate their Messiah. Their support is unconditional, not rational, so what you propose is nonsense.
As we've seen in Ukraine, thankfully conservative thought currently does not dominate the US's foreign policy.
Based on polling, Gazans don't support Hamas overall, just their actions on Oct 7.
I would never justify forgoing elections in favor of relying on polling, as polling is only indicative of broad sentiment and not precise enough.
The proportion of civilians -and more specifically children- killed should be enough to discredit any justification of the current cleansing in progress. All the rest is just brain rot, leaning towards open support of genocide.
Unfortunately, it appears as if we have learnt nothing in the last 80+ years, and "it's complicated" is a great excuse to tolerate such actions, as it has been in the past.
Kneecap were the first to cancel their show, I think, and put it like this on social media:
> "That the organisers of SXSW have taken the decision to mix the arts with the military and weapons companies is unforgivable, that they have done so as we witness a genocide facilitated by the US military and its contractors is depraved."
The loss of earnings to these artists is significant, before anyone tries to claim they're doing this for attention or clout.
Some will surely claim that this is because the Irish are so 'anti-semitic'. Having lived here for decades, I can promise you that there is fuck-all anti Jewish sentiment across the country. What we dislike is settler colonialist land-grabs and ethnic cleansing.
What's surprising to me is that SXSW thought getting sponsorship from companies whose products have killed over 30,000 Palestinians in a matter of months was a smart and cool thing to do.
To then have the additional hubris of trying to legally intimidate critics with farcical threats is actually a little surprising too. Like, dig up, dipshits.
Time to donate to the EFF again.
“These defense contractors make the weapons that the IDF uses to bomb Gaza. The IDF has now killed at least one in every 75 inhabitants of Gaza, [and] I refuse to be complicit in that,” Williams said. “I don’t believe that a music festival should include profiteers of war – I believe that art is a tool to create a better world and has no place alongside warmongers.”
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2024/mar/06/sxsw-musicians...
The first results for “sxsw Palestine”:
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2024/3/13/artists-and-spe...
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/13/us/sxsw-army-sponsorship-...
https://www.vulture.com/article/sxsw-palestine-defense-indus...
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/texas/news/dozens-of-artists-boy...
https://pitchfork.com/news/sxsw-addresses-us-army-sponsorshi...
https://tribune.com.pk/story/2459328/more-than-80-participan...
https://amp.theguardian.com/music/2024/mar/06/sxsw-musicians...
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/03/13/us/sxsw-military-sponsors...
I don’t think it’s reasonable that every single post needs to reference what’s going on with sources to make their point. We’re all adults, we all have access to the internet and news outlets.