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Not about the article, but... I find it ironic that a pop-up with the title "We value your privacy" makes me accept 1532 partners to sell my data to.

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Of course the value value your privacy. They are selling it to 1532 partners.

> Not about the article, but... I find it ironic that a pop-up with the title "We value your privacy" makes me accept 1532 partners to sell my data to.

Par for the course. I read the other day that a major automakers infotainment system will assure you your driving data will not be shared with third parties without your consent...on the screen where you agree to the off-screen legalese that includes a consent allow them to share your driving data with third parties.

Which one please, allegedly?

That egregious UI was specifically Honda's (see the last paragraph I quoted), but a lot of automakers are doing shady stuff:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/11/technology/carmakers-driv...:

> General Motors is not the only automaker sharing driving behavior. Kia, Subaru and Mitsubishi also contribute to the LexisNexis “Telematics Exchange,” a “portal for sharing consumer-approved connected car data with insurers.” As of 2022, the exchange, according to a LexisNexis news release, has “real-world driving behavior” collected “from over 10 million vehicles.”

> Verisk also claims to have access to data from millions of vehicles and partnerships with major automakers, including Ford, Honda and Hyundai.

> ...

> The other automakers all have optional driver-coaching features in their apps — Kia, Mitsubishi and Hyundai have “Driving Score,” while Honda and Acura have “Driver Feedback” — that, when turned on, collect information about people’s mileage, speed, braking and acceleration that is then shared with LexisNexis or Verisk, the companies said in response to questions from The New York Times.

> But that would not be evident or obvious to drivers using these features. In fact, before a Honda owner activates Driver Feedback, a screen titled “Respect for your Privacy” assures drivers that “your data will never be shared without your consent.” But it is shared — with Verisk, a fact disclosed in a more than 2,000-word “terms and conditions” screen that a driver needs to click “accept” on. (Honda does mention Verisk in an FAQ on its website and Kia highlights its relationship with LexisNexis Risk Solutions on its website. A Kia spokesman said LexisNexis can’t share driving score data of Kia participants with insurers without additional consent.)