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Just to answer to the turbo aspect, I've seen a big downgrade in quality when comparing 4 to 4-turbo, and even the new preview which is explicitly supposed to follow my instructions better. So I'm running a first pass through 4 and then combinging it with 4-turbo to take advantage of the larger context window and then running 4 on it again to get a better quality output.

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You really need to try Opus. Try a provider that works across models (one in my bio).

It's incredible how far behind HN of all places is w.r.t. what the current best tech is.

So many people talking about GPT-4 here, or even 3.5 when the SOTA has moved way along.

Gemini Advanced is also a great model, but for other reasons. That thing really knows a boat load of low level optimization tricks.

I'm sure you know what your talking about, but pushing the point that what is "best" or worth talking about is something that changes like every month does not really help defend against the case that most of this is just hype-churn or marketing.

I'm not pushing what to talk about so much as pushing the point not to talk about stuff that is obsolete and starting to smell.

It's that hype-churn marketing that is a motivating factor for the groups to innovate, much like Formula 1. It might be distasteful, but that doesn't mean it isn't working.

> So many people talking about GPT-4 here, or even 3.5 when the SOTA has moved way along.

So what is the SOTA, in your opinion?

> So many people talking about GPT-4 here, or even 3.5 when the SOTA has moved way along.

I'm talking about 4-turbo, 4-turbo preview and self hosted LLama2. What in God's name is not SOTA about this?

> It's incredible how far behind HN of all places is w.r.t. what the current best tech is.

Good fucking Christ, Opus has been out for like 8 days, I've had holidays longer than that!

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