Apple really trying to be the asshole here. Imagine installing work apps that disappear after 30 days.. Also what happens if the user chooses not to share their live location with apple?
Given the barrier to entry and cost, with little benefit, if I were to guess, the Epic store might be the only "third party App Store" to ever see the light of day.
And the way that's going, even that is in doubt.
One of them even announced providing a white label service for others to launch their app store.
I have no interest in them, but it’ll be fine.
People are just being dramatic because they’re not getting what they want.
The DMA doesn’t even stipulate a 30 day provision, just a stipulation that it applies to people who live or are located in the EU. There’s a bit of wiggle room on how to read that (i.e., people who live in the EU, people who are located in the EU, people who live or are located in the EU) and Apple chose the middle road, presumably with the expectation that if it turns out to be an issue it’ll be settled before the CJEU.
if i travel to leave the EU for longer than 30 days, do i no longer live in the EU?
according to tax law, i am considered living in the EU as long as i spend at least 6 months per year there. so by that metric, the feature should be available for at least 6 months after leaving the EU.
But the second you step out of EU, EU laws stop applying to you.
On the other hand, i am a EU citizen that live abroad and i do not pay any taxes in EU.. Unless i am visiting when i have to pay sales and services taxes..
But i pay taxes in the country i live, and i have to do it even for income i earned abroad..
And sure, there are some countries that make you pay income taxes if you are a citizen even when you live and have income abroad, like the US, but one could argue that you still have access to government services even while living abroad and those are paid via taxes.
this does not change the fact EU laws stop applying when you leave and restart applying when you come back..
Spirit of the law vs word of the law and all, you know... jeez
I hope this malicious approach will indeed be settled before the CJEU... with a hefty fine.
There you go...
Imagine paying a thousand dollars for a computer that actively sabotages its user based on their gps data… All because the manufacturer wants to control how someone can install a piece of software on it…
[^1] Source: TFA, the thing we're commenting on, at least, hopefully we're not just looking for comments to reply to, and then replying in a way that makes people feel small and look silly
Are you the same person who was saying tough noodles, you should have accounted for this when buying the phone?
Or is someone else operating the account now?
Because guess what? Apple isn't going away, their hardware will continue to be popular, and companies will compete with them regardless. Just because one business tactic has been deemed anticompetitive doesn't mean everything is, let alone that you can't continue providing the same features under fair pretenses. Apple chooses how they respond to the legislation, and right now they are deliberately steering themselves in the most victimizing and infantile direction possible. It makes me embarrassed to be an American, where many consider this behavior an... attribute of free-market patriotism. Barf.
If Apple dematerializes one day, I give you full permission to intrude on my latest comment and break the good news. There are two champagne bottles I'd like to open and I've been saving them for such an occasion.
There's no scam here. Everything is VERY well known.
Someone might want to be able to video-call with their grandma who only knows how to use facetime, while also wanting to be able to compile and run open-source apps from source on the device they paid money for.
It's also not particularly well known either that apple has such predatory practices I don't think.
Of my friends, I don't think any of them realized the reason they couldn't buy ebooks on the iOS kindle app, and the app couldn't even have a link to the webpage where you could buy it, is Apple's anti-competitive rules to give apple books an edge. I think everyone just assumed Amazon was too dumb to design a "buy now" link.
I don't think most of my friends realize uBlock origin not existing for "chrome on iOS" is apple's fault, but rather assume the addon developer or chrome folks are at fault.
Apple is a world duopoly, the cost of devices is enormous and device is not the only thing that exists standalone. You likely have a lot of of purchased apps, media, uploaded data, proprietary hardware infrastructure which doesn't work with other vendors (like airpods etc.) and many many other ties to the Apple.
Saying that a person should just discard all that and simply move to the other vendor is a dumb proposition.
Access to the app store disappears.
If you do not have access, I would wonder if they would run across the problem google ran into with private browsing, that people expect to have privacy.
In other words, if you turn off location services, that apple will not track your location and should have (legal) no way of knowing if you are inside or outside of the EU.
Apple doesn’t need to know where you are because the phone can enforce their rules offline.
In other words, the court said normal people turning on "private browsing" expected what they were browsing was private.
In a similar fashion, maybe people turning off "location services" would expect their location to be hidden.
Or someone will inevitably create an app that will do this automatically & indefinitely.
> However, you must be in the European Union to install alternative app marketplaces and new apps from alternative app marketplaces
Let's get to a more down to earth example then: you break your phone while abroad, you can't buy a new one and reinstall old apps anymore.
Or another one: you forgot to install an application available only on this alternative store before leaving (it's not that crazy, see F-Droid on Android where apps are not always available on the Play Store), you can't install it anymore since you aren't physically in the EU anymore.